Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Nov 13, 2005 23:27
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French term
dit d'usage
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
Performing Arts
"CONTRAT D’ENGAGEMENT A DUREE DETERMINEE « DIT D’USAGE »"
A contract for an "intermittent du spectacle" - a specific French work regime.
"d'usage" is invoked in the codes, defining certain protections for the employer.
A contract for an "intermittent du spectacle" - a specific French work regime.
"d'usage" is invoked in the codes, defining certain protections for the employer.
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French term (edited):
DIT D�USAGE
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de facto, customary
Since people seem to agree that this "CDD d'usage" is not just an exception to the law but contrary to the "de jure" contract and hence "fondamentalement illégal", it has to be a "de facto" contract (in one sense).
Le Contrat à Durée Déterminée dit d'Usage est le contrat qui fonde le caractère intermittent de nos emplois dans le cinéma, l'audiovisuel mais aussi l'ensemble du spectacle. Ce contrat est fondé sur un accord de branche dit "Accord Michel".
http://www.sntr.fnsac-cgt.com/nouvellepage4.htm
Depuis des années, il y a des dérives du régime. Bérégovoy en 1982 modifie le Code du travail sur le contrat à durée déterminée (CDD) dit "d'usage" : il permet l'usage constant de CDD dans certaines branches, dont le spectacle. La différence avec le CDD de droit commun, c'est la non-limitation du nombre de contrats. On peut faire 60 CDD d'usage pour le même employeur dans l'année ! Des CDD "d'usage" font la météo tous les jours ! Les cadreurs des journaux télévisés sont permanents, mais ils relèvent de l'intermittence ! C'est fondamentalement illégal.
http://www.lcr-rouge.org/archives/072403/champli.html
Otherwise "customary contract" would work:
DE FACTO CONTRACT. Contract intended to convey property from one individual to
another, but is defective in one respect, such as providing no consideration ...
www.bobvila.com/GlossaryTerms/List/Word-D-Page-003.html
A CUSTOMARY CONTRACT is a set of terms that is standard in a given locale for a given economic purpose. Once established, such a standard tends to perpetuate itself because it creates expectations about what is fair and appropriate in a given type of economic bargain. ...
lists.repec.org/pipermail/ nep-agr/2000-October/000048.html
Along the lines of a previous question here about "mariage d'usage", i.e. in Africa, where ancient tribal tradition that does not actually match national law is perpetuated and accepted, de facto, by the government of the country:
1. … property by virtue of sanda, sanla, arindao, or similar CUSTOMARY CONTRACT, shall be construed as a mortgage (rihan) in accordance with Muslim law. ...
www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecreeno1083.htm
2. Abusa an older CUSTOMARY CONTRACT arrangement by which shares are divided into
three parts; either the crop or the land or the tenant eventually receives a ...
www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/issues/ livelihoods/landrights/downloads/ghanasec.rtf
Le Contrat à Durée Déterminée dit d'Usage est le contrat qui fonde le caractère intermittent de nos emplois dans le cinéma, l'audiovisuel mais aussi l'ensemble du spectacle. Ce contrat est fondé sur un accord de branche dit "Accord Michel".
http://www.sntr.fnsac-cgt.com/nouvellepage4.htm
Depuis des années, il y a des dérives du régime. Bérégovoy en 1982 modifie le Code du travail sur le contrat à durée déterminée (CDD) dit "d'usage" : il permet l'usage constant de CDD dans certaines branches, dont le spectacle. La différence avec le CDD de droit commun, c'est la non-limitation du nombre de contrats. On peut faire 60 CDD d'usage pour le même employeur dans l'année ! Des CDD "d'usage" font la météo tous les jours ! Les cadreurs des journaux télévisés sont permanents, mais ils relèvent de l'intermittence ! C'est fondamentalement illégal.
http://www.lcr-rouge.org/archives/072403/champli.html
Otherwise "customary contract" would work:
DE FACTO CONTRACT. Contract intended to convey property from one individual to
another, but is defective in one respect, such as providing no consideration ...
www.bobvila.com/GlossaryTerms/List/Word-D-Page-003.html
A CUSTOMARY CONTRACT is a set of terms that is standard in a given locale for a given economic purpose. Once established, such a standard tends to perpetuate itself because it creates expectations about what is fair and appropriate in a given type of economic bargain. ...
lists.repec.org/pipermail/ nep-agr/2000-October/000048.html
Along the lines of a previous question here about "mariage d'usage", i.e. in Africa, where ancient tribal tradition that does not actually match national law is perpetuated and accepted, de facto, by the government of the country:
1. … property by virtue of sanda, sanla, arindao, or similar CUSTOMARY CONTRACT, shall be construed as a mortgage (rihan) in accordance with Muslim law. ...
www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecreeno1083.htm
2. Abusa an older CUSTOMARY CONTRACT arrangement by which shares are divided into
three parts; either the crop or the land or the tenant eventually receives a ...
www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/issues/ livelihoods/landrights/downloads/ghanasec.rtf
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I used the French term with a description because this is a specific concept in French jurisprudence. "CDD", "intermittent", etc are not synonyms, but descriptives of SOME elements of SOME contrats d'usage."
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French term (edited):
DIT D�USAGE
known OR referred to as 'standard'
I don't think you'll find anything like an exact equivalent in the UK, but as far as this bit is concerned, doesn't it just mean that this contract is referred to as a 'standard' (or 'ordinary' or 'normal') one --- presumably, as distinct from certain other 'special' ones?
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swisstell
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Thanks, SwissTell! Though it looks from Vaughn's note as if we're both wrong :-(
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French term (edited):
DIT D�USAGE
routine contract
un contrat dit d'usage is just a routine contract for a determined period
Le CDD d'USAGE - [ Translate this page ]
Le Contrat à Durée Déterminée dit d'Usage est le contrat qui fonde le caractèreintermittent de nos emplois dans le cinéma, l'audiovisuel mais aussi ...
www.sntr.fnsac-cgt.com/nouvellepage4.htm
voir d'usage in GDT
Le CDD d'USAGE - [ Translate this page ]
Le Contrat à Durée Déterminée dit d'Usage est le contrat qui fonde le caractèreintermittent de nos emplois dans le cinéma, l'audiovisuel mais aussi ...
www.sntr.fnsac-cgt.com/nouvellepage4.htm
voir d'usage in GDT
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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French term (edited):
DIT D�USAGE
temporary contracts of employment for a pre-determined period
these are contracts for temporary salaried personnel for a determined period of time
Contracts of work - TEMPORARY CONTRACTS OF EMPLOYMENT Temporary work, more usually known as "hired ... at an enterprise that needs staff for a pre-determined period of time. ...
www.unitn.it/en/alumni/placements/contracts_work.htm - 33k - 11 Nov 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
Classifications - ICSE - Statistics... a period of employment which is longer than a specified minimum determined ... (j) Workers who hold explicit or implicit contracts of "paid employment" ...
www.ilo.org/public/english/bureau/stat/class/icse.htm - 24k - 11 Nov 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
Guidance on the use of Temporary and Casual ContractsThis “Guidance” deals with temporary and casual employment contracts issued ... Departmental employment contracts are typically for a limited period and/or ...
www.york.ac.uk/admin/persnl/policies/casual.htm - 29k - Cached - Similar pages
Fixed Term WorkersA fixed term employee is a person with a contract of employment entered into ... where the end of the contract of employment concerned is determined by an ...
www.ictu.ie/html/yrights/fixed_term_workers.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 2 hrs 27 mins (2005-11-14 01:55:16 GMT)
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I don't think there's a specific English translation for this. I think you should leave it in French and italicize it with an explanation in-between parentheses, i.e. renewable indefinitely and cumulative or something like that.
Contracts of work - TEMPORARY CONTRACTS OF EMPLOYMENT Temporary work, more usually known as "hired ... at an enterprise that needs staff for a pre-determined period of time. ...
www.unitn.it/en/alumni/placements/contracts_work.htm - 33k - 11 Nov 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
Classifications - ICSE - Statistics... a period of employment which is longer than a specified minimum determined ... (j) Workers who hold explicit or implicit contracts of "paid employment" ...
www.ilo.org/public/english/bureau/stat/class/icse.htm - 24k - 11 Nov 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
Guidance on the use of Temporary and Casual ContractsThis “Guidance” deals with temporary and casual employment contracts issued ... Departmental employment contracts are typically for a limited period and/or ...
www.york.ac.uk/admin/persnl/policies/casual.htm - 29k - Cached - Similar pages
Fixed Term WorkersA fixed term employee is a person with a contract of employment entered into ... where the end of the contract of employment concerned is determined by an ...
www.ictu.ie/html/yrights/fixed_term_workers.htm - 45k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 2 hrs 27 mins (2005-11-14 01:55:16 GMT)
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I don't think there's a specific English translation for this. I think you should leave it in French and italicize it with an explanation in-between parentheses, i.e. renewable indefinitely and cumulative or something like that.
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Tony M
: That's all very well for the 'CDD' bit --- But I thought Vaughn was really asking about the 'dit d'usage' bit?
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right! forgot about that bit!
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intermittent
Les appellations varient selon les secteurs d'activité, les entreprises, l'existence ou non d'accords salariaux ou de conventions collectives. Qu'il s'agisse de contrat de travail à durée déterminée ou indéterminée, de contrat dit d'usage ("intermittent"), les principales qualifications sont les suivantes:
http://www.ac-creteil.fr/Lycees/93/sugerstdenis/btsaudiov/mo...
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Note added at 15 hrs 59 mins (2005-11-14 15:27:05 GMT)
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Dans le domaine du spectacle, pour les éclairagistes par exemple, nous avons des contrats à durée déterminé "intermittents", c'est à dire pour un nombre de jours fixe, mais non nécessairement consécutifs.
S'ils s'agit de contrats à durée déterminée pour une période fixe mais accordés dans le cadre d'un événement spécial, le qualificatif "as needed" conviendrait mieux.
http://www.ac-creteil.fr/Lycees/93/sugerstdenis/btsaudiov/mo...
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Note added at 15 hrs 59 mins (2005-11-14 15:27:05 GMT)
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Dans le domaine du spectacle, pour les éclairagistes par exemple, nous avons des contrats à durée déterminé "intermittents", c'est à dire pour un nombre de jours fixe, mais non nécessairement consécutifs.
S'ils s'agit de contrats à durée déterminée pour une période fixe mais accordés dans le cadre d'un événement spécial, le qualificatif "as needed" conviendrait mieux.
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CMJ_Trans (X)
: surely "intermittent" is an example of the type of profession concerned and is in French?
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df49f (X)
: closest to the French very specific & complex system of "intermittents du spectacle" - "fixed term intermittent employment contract" - http://www.eurofound.eu.int/emire/france.html
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