Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
témoin
English translation:
certified/reference sample/specimen
Added to glossary by
Helen Genevier
Dec 22, 2006 14:57
17 yrs ago
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French term
France
témoin
French to English
Science
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
testing an insect repellent on various textiles
"ART.3 – Les bulletins de résultats et observations ne sont valables que pour les échantillons soumis à [test lab]: un ***témoin*** pourra être remis au demandeur, muni du sceau de [test lab] et joint au bulletin."
A textiles testing lab has been asked to test whether an insect repellent for use on fabrics damages or stains 7 types of textile. This is part of the standard small print on the covering letter from the test lab to the manufacturer of the repellent, which accompanies its results.
The rest of the small print cover things like "we are not responsible for what you choose do to with our results; you must pay more if you want to jump the queue; we keep any unused part of the sample for 3 months etc.).
I have no idea what "témoin" refers to. A sample of the sample submitted for testing? Proof of submission of the sample?
A textiles testing lab has been asked to test whether an insect repellent for use on fabrics damages or stains 7 types of textile. This is part of the standard small print on the covering letter from the test lab to the manufacturer of the repellent, which accompanies its results.
The rest of the small print cover things like "we are not responsible for what you choose do to with our results; you must pay more if you want to jump the queue; we keep any unused part of the sample for 3 months etc.).
I have no idea what "témoin" refers to. A sample of the sample submitted for testing? Proof of submission of the sample?
Proposed translations
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Change log
Dec 26, 2006 15:10: Gayle Wallimann changed "Term asked" from "témoin (here)" to "témoin "
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cjohnstone
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
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certified sample, approved test sample
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Note added at 57 mins (2006-12-22 15:55:32 GMT)
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forget about certified, not a good idea in fact!
reference sample is another idea
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wonder in fact when I said certified sample no good, as an afterthought think may be be good
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Note added at 57 mins (2006-12-22 15:55:32 GMT)
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forget about certified, not a good idea in fact!
reference sample is another idea
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-12-22 17:43:50 GMT)
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wonder in fact when I said certified sample no good, as an afterthought think may be be good
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Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, and particularly to Catherine and Bourth"
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Johannes Gleim
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
test certificate
It looks like a certificate as the "témion" is stamped (sealed) and accompagnies the test report.
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
depending on how
you've translated "échantillon", you could call this a "test specimen", "representative sample".
I understand your prob. in that this "témoin" is, as you say, a sample/specimen of a test specimen. I think introducing "representative" may be a solution.
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I imagine the lab keeps the test specimens it has tested for a certain time so that in the event of dispute they can produce them. I suppose they are saying that despite this rule, they will provide either one whole specimen or a part of a specimen so the client can .... do whatever he wants with it.
I understand your prob. in that this "témoin" is, as you say, a sample/specimen of a test specimen. I think introducing "representative" may be a solution.
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Note added at 37 mins (2006-12-22 15:34:48 GMT)
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I imagine the lab keeps the test specimens it has tested for a certain time so that in the event of dispute they can produce them. I suppose they are saying that despite this rule, they will provide either one whole specimen or a part of a specimen so the client can .... do whatever he wants with it.
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Luisa Moura Almeida
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
standard test sample
échantillon témoin = standard test sample
http://www.centexbel.be/Fr/lexicon_E.htm
http://www.centexbel.be/Fr/lexicon_E.htm
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
tested sample
If there are 7 fabrics then there should be 7 tested samples
with a yea or ney.
with a yea or ney.
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Antonio Barros
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French term (edited):
témoin (here)
control or core
I see "témoin" as meaning a piece of material to be used in further tests to check it as to several characteristics.
In some areas, it is used "control".
In other areas, "core".
Pll et GI moyens a I'examen initial (baseline) et aux examens annuels dans le groupe temoin (control) et dans le. groupe experimental (test) pendant les ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1600-051X.1981....
Temoin. Caption : Cas = People with HIV/AIDS, Témoin = Control subjects : People without HIV. Source : Data from the adults-centred questionnaire ...
www.unicef-icdc.org/research/ESP/aids/chapter4.pdf
control group, groupe témoin. control means, moyen de contrôle. control mechanism, mécanisme de contrôle. control mechanisms, mécanismes de contrôle ...
www.wordreference.com/enfr/control
In some areas, it is used "control".
In other areas, "core".
Pll et GI moyens a I'examen initial (baseline) et aux examens annuels dans le groupe temoin (control) et dans le. groupe experimental (test) pendant les ...
www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1600-051X.1981....
Temoin. Caption : Cas = People with HIV/AIDS, Témoin = Control subjects : People without HIV. Source : Data from the adults-centred questionnaire ...
www.unicef-icdc.org/research/ESP/aids/chapter4.pdf
control group, groupe témoin. control means, moyen de contrôle. control mechanism, mécanisme de contrôle. control mechanisms, mécanismes de contrôle ...
www.wordreference.com/enfr/control
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