Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Nov 4, 2008 14:10
15 yrs ago
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English term
wet room
English to French
Tech/Engineering
Tourism & Travel
Guide de voyage Floride, sur un hôtel sous-marin (si, si), http://www.jul.com/
In addition to two private guest rooms (there’s just the teensiest nautical theme – everywhere), there are common rooms, a fully stocked kitchen/dining room, and **wet room** with hot showers and gear storage.
D'après ce que je lis et vois sur google, il semble qu'il s'agisse d'une sdb ouverte, en quelque sorte.
Savez-vous s'il existe un terme spécifique ? Et à votre avis que peut-être le matériel qu'on peut y stocker (gear storage) ?
Merci de vos lumières
In addition to two private guest rooms (there’s just the teensiest nautical theme – everywhere), there are common rooms, a fully stocked kitchen/dining room, and **wet room** with hot showers and gear storage.
D'après ce que je lis et vois sur google, il semble qu'il s'agisse d'une sdb ouverte, en quelque sorte.
Savez-vous s'il existe un terme spécifique ? Et à votre avis que peut-être le matériel qu'on peut y stocker (gear storage) ?
Merci de vos lumières
Proposed translations
(French)
Proposed translations
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49 mins
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zone humide
A submarine hotel ? ... on n'arrête pas le progrès ... ;))
If it were a boat (I mean, one that floats, though they may have them on military submarines, for all I know) it would be called a "zone humide" .- an area for taking off - and leaving to drip - deck gear, oilies etc.
So perhaps the same term might be used here ?
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:29:35 GMT)
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I think that the author has used the term "wet zone" rather than simply "bathroom" for the sipmle reason that this underwater hotel is going to be entered/exited underwater, by people wearing wet suits (or whatever). On entering, they are going to be dripping water everywhere (just like crew going below on a yacht in wet weather), and the "wet room" is the place where they can undress, shower or clean up, and change into dry clothes.
I suggest the phrase should be translated "zone humide avec douches et rangement pour combinaisons de plongée" (etc..).
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:46:18 GMT)
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To find the term on the lordjimcroisieres site, you have to click on "Lord Jim2 \ Passons à l'intérieur".
The "zone humide" is at the foot of the companionway and includes the heads (bathroom).
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:59:58 GMT)
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See also :
http://www.irisoft-yacht.com/irisoft44/index.htm
(Click on "agencements" : you get a drawing of the layout, with "zone humide" - which includes the heads and shower - "zone de vie" and "zone calme").
And as a bonus, you get to see a very nice boat ... ;)
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-11-04 16:23:45 GMT)
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You may notice that the Irisoft site has an English title, and a link to a non-existent English version. A while ago, I offered my services to the yacht designer and webmaster, but received a short sharp answer.
If any other translator is tempted to try, please feel free ... :)
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Note added at 6 days (2008-11-10 19:07:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Julie : since this "hotel" is fairly primitive, I do think this is the best choice, but other more luxurious "underwater hotels" are under construction, and some of the other suggestions might be more appropriate for them.
If it were a boat (I mean, one that floats, though they may have them on military submarines, for all I know) it would be called a "zone humide" .- an area for taking off - and leaving to drip - deck gear, oilies etc.
So perhaps the same term might be used here ?
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:29:35 GMT)
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I think that the author has used the term "wet zone" rather than simply "bathroom" for the sipmle reason that this underwater hotel is going to be entered/exited underwater, by people wearing wet suits (or whatever). On entering, they are going to be dripping water everywhere (just like crew going below on a yacht in wet weather), and the "wet room" is the place where they can undress, shower or clean up, and change into dry clothes.
I suggest the phrase should be translated "zone humide avec douches et rangement pour combinaisons de plongée" (etc..).
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:46:18 GMT)
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To find the term on the lordjimcroisieres site, you have to click on "Lord Jim2 \ Passons à l'intérieur".
The "zone humide" is at the foot of the companionway and includes the heads (bathroom).
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-11-04 15:59:58 GMT)
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See also :
http://www.irisoft-yacht.com/irisoft44/index.htm
(Click on "agencements" : you get a drawing of the layout, with "zone humide" - which includes the heads and shower - "zone de vie" and "zone calme").
And as a bonus, you get to see a very nice boat ... ;)
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-11-04 16:23:45 GMT)
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You may notice that the Irisoft site has an English title, and a link to a non-existent English version. A while ago, I offered my services to the yacht designer and webmaster, but received a short sharp answer.
If any other translator is tempted to try, please feel free ... :)
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Note added at 6 days (2008-11-10 19:07:52 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Julie : since this "hotel" is fairly primitive, I do think this is the best choice, but other more luxurious "underwater hotels" are under construction, and some of the other suggestions might be more appropriate for them.
Example sentence:
zone sèche - zone humide
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Tony M
: Best bet so far!
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Thanks Tony !
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Sandra Mouton
: I agree about "zone humide" for a yacht but I can't help being uncomfortable with 'zone humide' in a hotel.
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I can't help being VERY uncomfortable about the mere idea of a submarine hotel ... with only 2 guest rooms, apparently
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "le terme est sans doute un peu technique pour un hôtel, mais avec le reste de la phr, ce sera parfaitement compréhensible.
Merci !"
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douche italienne
A term I have come across for the open-type showers you have in 'wet' bathrooms — I realize this isn't exactly the term you need here, but maybe it will lead you on to the correct term....
Storage of things like wetsuits, swimming gear, SCUBA apparatus... in fact, anything wet / dirty that you wouldn't want to take into the rest of the hotel (incl. small children, perhaps...?)
Storage of things like wetsuits, swimming gear, SCUBA apparatus... in fact, anything wet / dirty that you wouldn't want to take into the rest of the hotel (incl. small children, perhaps...?)
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motom
: une "wet room" est en effet une douche à l'italienne, à savoir sans bac ni marche pour y entrer. A élargir, en disant salle de bains à l'italienne, le terme est correct du point de vue immobilier
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Merci, Motom ! à vrai dire, dans le présent contexte, ça ne corréspond pas tout à fait, mais c'est peut-être une piste... [vous avez la possibilité de modifier, voire supprimer votre commentaire ici]
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Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
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salle de bain
wet room includes in general bath room, toilet, WC and such like
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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-11-04 15:18:06 GMT)
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whenever you refer to toilet and bathroom you usually speak of wet rooms or Nassräume in German
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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-11-04 15:18:06 GMT)
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whenever you refer to toilet and bathroom you usually speak of wet rooms or Nassräume in German
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amphibiantrad
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merci !
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Michael GREEN
: If the authour had meant "salle de bain", I think he would have said "bathroom" in the source text ...a "wet room" is not the same thing.// The point about a "wet room" is that you are already wet when you enter it :)
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Tony M
: Doesn't seem to be a good way to describe the very particular room explained in the context as given. / It may be "common" in German, but this context is ENGLISH, and it is NOT common in English, I can assure you!
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nonetheless, this term is of common usage, whether we like it or not
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writeaway
: no. not a great idea to translate into English or French via (Austrian) German. just because salle de bain is used, it doesn't mean it's correct here.
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"wet room"
ou encore salle thermale. C'est tout simplement une salle de "douche" de plus ou moins gde taille, ou l'eau degouline directement sur le sol carrele...
Le "salle d'eau" de Sandra est a mon avis le plus approprie.
Le "salle d'eau" de Sandra est a mon avis le plus approprie.
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Michael GREEN
: Wet room ? Julie demande une traduction ! Quant à "salle thermale", visiblement vous n'avez pas regardé le site ...
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Si j'y suis allee..... Et sur d'autres aussi.... Julie demande une traduction, je me suis permise de lui en proposer une....J'ai aussi emis une preference pour celle d'une consoeur,, le restant me paraissant inapproprie... un peu d'amabilite ne nuit pas.
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Sandra Mouton
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in French
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Efficiency and finesse
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Russian to French, Latin to French, and 3 more.
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salle d'eau
Better than 'salle de bain', I think, which implies there is a bath tub when apparently there isn't.
Or you could translate along the idea of storage romm (sorry I can't presently provide a translation for that) and add 'avec douche'
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A friend just told me that in a sailing club such a place would be called 'vestiaires', maybe you can use that with 'avec douche chaude et toilettes séparées'. I think that would be customers would be glad to know the shower area and the toilets are in a little room of their own.
Or you could translate along the idea of storage romm (sorry I can't presently provide a translation for that) and add 'avec douche'
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-11-04 18:49:45 GMT)
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A friend just told me that in a sailing club such a place would be called 'vestiaires', maybe you can use that with 'avec douche chaude et toilettes séparées'. I think that would be customers would be glad to know the shower area and the toilets are in a little room of their own.
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Sophie Govaere McConnell
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Jean-Claude Gouin
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writeaway
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Thank you
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Michael GREEN
: If you look at http://www.jul.com/frontpage.html, Sandra, you will see that it is more a "sas" than a "salle"
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Pavel Tikunov
France
France
Specializes in field
France
Pavel Tikunov
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, French to Russian, Russian to English
pièce étanche
Given that the whole thing is under water, its important to know that the rest of the house can be dry. This is the opposite approach, describing what it is NOT...my 50 cents...
Le sauna est une pièce étanche équipée
www.cop-piscines.com/encyclopedie.htm
Le sauna est une pièce étanche équipée
www.cop-piscines.com/encyclopedie.htm
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vestiaire/sas de changement
dans les sous-marins il y a toujours des vestiaires ou sas de changement pour que ceux qui font de la plongée puissent se changer et quitter leurs combinaisons de plongée avant de pénétrer des les locaux communs
Discussion
I suggested "zone humide" in the hope that somebody might come up with something more appropriate, but I agree with Tony, "bathroom" it is not, and the ablution facilities in fact take up a very small part of the total area, which was clearly intended to provide space for dripping scientists to ... drip off. The same must apply to the lucky guests, who apparently don't need to pass through the shower or toilets before entering the other areas.
In any case, the fact remains that both from the description given here in the source text, and the illustrations of this 'hotel' on the website, the area in question could not by any stretch of the imagination be described as a mere 'bathroom' — and I don't for an instant believe that the FR term 'salle de bains' could be shoehorned to fit either.
Pool House
Le pool house est un local, simple pièce, ou petite maison située à proximité de la piscine et lui servant d'annexe. Son emploi est variable : abriter la partie technique (filtration, chauffage, traitement etc.), stocker le matériel de piscine et de jardin, ou offrir un lieu de détente avec cuisine, coin repas, salle d’eau, sauna, barbecue.
The only phrase I've found is "wet area" for "pièce d'eau". Getting closer...