Mar 7, 2010 07:58
14 yrs ago
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French term

régisseur (d'oeuvres d'arts/collections)

French to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting museums, exhibitions
Context is museums, not theater (ie not régisseur in the sense of stage manager). Source text is a list of professions who would be interested in an electronic security system for works of art: "Vous êtes conservateur, régisseur ou responsable sécurité d'un musée ; responsable technique, antiquaire ou propriétaire privé..." / "Whatever your occupation dealing with artworks- curator, [régisseur], museum security, technical manager, antiques dealer, private owner, design department, installer or insurance broker- we have a solution for you."

Discussion

codeswitch (asker) Mar 8, 2010:
Would a registar buy an RIFD system? The source text is promotional literature for a radio frequency tags used to track the whereabouts and movements of artifacts in a museum. The product can be used for inventory or security purposes. A registrar could conceivably be a customer for such a system since apprarently "Registrars maintain information files and databases for all permanent and loaned artifacts in museum collections; set up tracking systems to organize and locate artifacts in storage" http://ncmuseumofhistory.org/fko/careersforhistorians/cfh.re...
David Vaughn Mar 7, 2010:
Jim Hey, just babbling myself. I didn't feel targeted. ;-))
Jim Tucker (X) Mar 7, 2010:
David I assure you my remark about CL was not aimed at you, or indeed anyone. I was just sharing my pseudophilosophical babbling with Writeway. By the same token in my teaching days I used to joke with the students that everyone gets a B, because no one is Leonardo and everyone is assumed to try. In the event, of course, things were always different...
David Vaughn Mar 7, 2010:
less than 4 Jim, you ask why post if you are less certain than 4. Many many reasons. First, we always have only a small part of the context. I can often think of several possible answers - the best choice will depend on questions of context, style, audience, etc. I sometimes post answers that I don't like but that I think add some information for reflection - it's true this is now possible to do so through the 'discussion' section. But sometimes even a bad answer is better than the alternatives. A translator does sometimes have to use bad solutions - the least of evils law. We always hope that a better idea will come along, but sometimes it doesn't. The form of ProZ also forces word-to-word solutions on us, when the best solution is often to completely rework entire phrases, sentences or even paragraphs. It is important to resist the word-to-word bias which is often antithetical to good translation. In the present case, registrar and collections manager are very often synonyms - as museum job descriptions amply show. Each answer has its own advantages, even if without more context I prefer registrar. That's why I answered with a 3. :-))
Jim Tucker (X) Mar 7, 2010:
"régisseur"/registrar not a traditional museum job Eva Bensard, Profession régisseur d’oeuvre d’art: un métier émergent dans les institutions muséales, chargé de la gestion des mouvements et de la prévention pour la conservation des collections

Also see http://www.afroa.fr/fra/publi.htm
Jonathan MacKerron Mar 7, 2010:
art(s) director lots of googles for "museum arts director"

Proposed translations

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museum registrar

Code of Ethics for Registrars (Code déontologique des régisseurs)
That's near the bottom here: http://www.afroa.fr/fra/publi.htm


http://j.whyville.net/smmk/whytimes/article?id=4962

http://www.letudiant.fr/metiers/secteur/culture/regisseur-d-...

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A museum registrar keeps track of the art and makes sure it is kept safe. This is important because many of the artworks are old and fragile, and also very valuable.


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Transporter un tableau de Léonard de Vinci ne s’improvise pas ! Pour gérer ce véritable casse-tête logistique, les musées peuvent compter sur un professionnel : le régisseur d’œuvres d’art. Il gère l’organisation matérielle de tout mouvement d’œuvres, du transport au stockage. Il obtient les autorisations douanières quand les pièces doivent partir à l’étranger, souscrit les contrats d’assurance, vérifie leur bonne protection lors de l’emballage… Touche-à-tout, habile de ses mains, il a, en plus, le sens des responsabilités : il n’a pas le moindre droit à l’erreur. Les œuvres qu’il touche sont parfois estimées à plusieurs millions d’euros.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-03-07 10:39:53 GMT)
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CL should be 5
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : a more modest 4 CL is never a bad idea. no one is perfect, after all. ;-) the 'hard sell' has more effect on It-En/no harm in trying to help if it's not just a wild guess. being wrong is part of the real life game
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Thanks W - actually I always put 4 as a matter of course, since as you say, you never know -- but if you feel less confident than 4, why post in the first place?...goes my thinking
agree David Vaughn : I would use just "registrar" - see my suggestion for further comments.
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Thanks DV
agree Stephanie Ezrol
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agree Evans (X) : The V&A uses "registrar" for the equivalent to what the Louvre calls a "régisseur". Pretty conclusive to me.
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administrator

Museum AdministratorMuseum administrators can move on to work as curators, interpreters, ... Also beneficial to anyone looking to work as a museum administrator is a masters ...
www.schoolsintheusa.com/careerprofiles_details.cfm?carid...
Note from asker:
This is good but I don't know if it's specific enough for the client.
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(museum) floor manager

Régisseur is often translated as floor manager, and this seems to apply to the context of museums :

"The job of a museum floor manager includes working with volunteers, coordinating staff, assisting visitors to the museum as well as providing or organization educational information and guided tours ... The floor manager oversees the day-to-day operation of his or her area of the museum."
http://www.jobprofiles.org/artmuseum1.htm

see also
http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Museum-Floor-Manager-l-Washin...

gets about 11 000+ g-hits

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@ codeswitch
yes, one of the reasons for which I posted this reply; in my link above there's also the following text : "In some museums and with some displays the floor manager may also be directly responsible for managing the security of the area ... Overseeing, assessing and supervising the security in the area of the museum they are responsible for".
Note from asker:
A job description at: http://www.tankmuseum.org/asset_arena/textual/09/bovtm_floor_manager_job_description_09.pdf would tend to support your answer, as the floor manager's duties also include "control of keys and the location of security devices"
Peer comment(s):

agree Martha Melter
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thank you Martha
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Curator

Curators administer museums, zoos, aquariums, botanical gardens, nature centers, and historic sites. The museum director often is a curator. Curators direct the acquisition, storage, and exhibition of collections, including negotiating and authorizing the purchase, sale, exchange, or loan of collections. They are also responsible for authenticating, evaluating, and categorizing the specimens in a collection. Curators often oversee and help conduct the institution's research projects and related educational programs. Today, an increasing part of a curator's duties involves fundraising and promotion, which may include the writing and reviewing of grant proposals, journal articles, and publicity materials, as well as attendance at meetings, conventions, and civic events.

Most curators specialize in a particular field, such as botany, art, paleontology, or history. Those working in large institutions may be highly specialized. A large natural history museum, for example, would employ separate curators for its collections of birds, fishes, insects, and mammals. Some curators maintain their collections, others do research, and others perform administrative tasks. In small institutions with only one or a few curators, one curator may be responsible for a number of tasks, from maintaining collections to directing the affairs of the museum.


A museum curator plans, displays and catalogs collection items. Planning and overseeing tours, programs and workshops may also be part of a museum curator's duties. A museum director is often the head curator at a museum.

Large museums may employ several curators that each specialize in a certain field. Small museums may have just one museum curator that does many different tasks and works with collections in many different subject areas. A museum curator employed in a large museum may travel often to seek out items to add to the museum's collection, while a museum curator in a small museum does not usually travel as part of the job.

Besides education and knowledge of museum studies, a museum curator needs writing and business skills. Grant requests and other fund raising materials must sometimes be written. Museum curators also often manage staff. Computer knowledge is also required as a museum curator usually must work with a database. Knowledge of public relations and marketing is also helpful for a museum curator and designing exhibits that appeal to the public is a crucial skill for a museum curator to have.

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Archivist may be used too.
archivists mainly handle records and documents that are retained because of their importance and potential value
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos065.htm

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Curator may be for a museum or for an insane person or for a minor. I think they put (regisseur) in order to determine which meaning is needed.
The curator is in charge of everything, while the archivist is in charge of documents only. I would just put Curator.
Note from asker:
A good answer, but I would ideally need to distinguish between "curator" and "régisseur", since the source document uses both terms.
Peer comment(s):

disagree David Vaughn : Wrong job.
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collections manager

Different institutions have differing hierarchies and structures. I think this is a good compromise for your specific context, where inclusion is the most important element. The idea is to differentiate the artistic staff from the technical staff. The other answers I've seen seem either too specific - "register", or too general - administrator.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-03-07 11:36:06 GMT)
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I google search of:
museum registrar "collections manager"
will show that the two terms are most often synonymous. Registrar is more widely used, while collections manager is more easily understood by the general public.

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See especially:

<http://www.rcaam.org/members/salary/pds.html>


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http://www.rcaam.org/members/salary/pds.html
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