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kissing gate
May 4, 2010 18:53
14 yrs ago
English term

flow

English to French Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
"Debris collection and transport. Temporary debris recycling and salvage site construction/management.Debris processing, reclamation and reuse flow and management"

Part of reconstructing efforts in Haiti following the earthquake.
Proposed translations (French)
1 +4 flux
3 +1 réseau(x) ... ( de réutilisation )
3 schéma (ou flux) de réutilisation

Discussion

Tony M May 10, 2010:
Danke Johannes! A lot of this is probably management-ese anyway; I would understand 'reuse flows' as being the actual path taken by the materials being repurposed — you know, demolition site (though in fact, I suspect this is the Haiti earthquake disaster, isn't it?) > holding area > despatch to different processing plants > transport to final site whree it will be used; whereas 're-use management' might be the more abstract organizational aspects of what / when / how many lorries, etc. etc. Of course, I've over-simplified it ad absurdum, but I hope you can see the distinction I'm trying to make?
Johannes Gleim May 10, 2010:
After considering your arguments I feel they were right. Two "and" in succession is not common. But I have still problems to understand what "reuse-flow-and-management" comprises in practice.
Tony M May 9, 2010:
I believe it is the latter... This is one of those things that really takes native-speaker feel, though I agree it certainly isn't cut-and-dried. But I do think there are 2 important clues pointing to this interpretation:

1) the use of 2 'and's like that in quick succession; if the meaning were intended to be 'reuse flow + management', there would be no reason for the first 'and' — the list would be more logical as: "Debris processing, reclamation, reuse flow, and management"

But the use of the first 'and' indicates that the whole of what follows is to be taken as a single item: "Debris processing, reclamation, and reuse-flow-and-management.

2) Also, leaving 'management' out there on its own like that would not really fit in with the rest of the list, since 'management' is much broader than the other items.

It might also be said that 'flow and management' actually applies to all the preceding list items: 'flow and management of debris processing, reclamation and reuse' — however, I think that is a lot less likely, as it sits rather awkwardly; but the 'flow-and-management' bit might very well apply to both 'reclamation' and 'reuse' — makes technical sense, and would explain the use of the 2 'and's.
Johannes Gleim May 9, 2010:
Is it management and reuse flow or reuse management and reuse flow?

Proposed translations

+4
25 mins
Selected

flux

I think this is one of those cases where the literal translation is probably just what is needed.
Peer comment(s):
agree FX Fraipont (X)
51 mins
Merci, F-X ! :-)
agree chaplin
1 hr
Merci, Ségolène !
agree GILLES MEUNIER
7 hrs
Merci, Gilles !
agree mimi 254
12 hrs
Merci, Mimi !
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+1
1 hr

réseau(x) ... ( de réutilisation )

Ce sont des réseaux plutôt qu'un simple flot.

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http://www.renaissancequebec.ca/fr.php?idsp=11

"Grâce à son concept de Station, des centres de don permanent, Renaissance souhaite mettre en place un véritable réseau de réutilisation de vêtements, d'accessoires et d'autres objets réutilisables et mettre ainsi un frein aux 170 000 tonnes de texti"les et autres matières non biodégradables enfouies annuellement au Québec."

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http://french.alibaba.com/product-tp/battery-plate-scrap-com...

"Nous sommes entreprise indienne d'homme d'affaires ayant posséder le RÉSEAU de RÉUTILISATION bien établi. "

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-05-04 20:08:32 GMT)
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http://www.epsc.ca/pdfs/Infrastructure_Report_Fr.pdf

"Il existe aussi un réseau de réutilisation, qui inclut le Programme fédéral des ordinateurs pour les écoles. Recyc-Québec aimerait faire de la recherche pour trouver la résine qui
permet de séparer différents plastiques, mais mentionne que Québec n’est en général pas prêt à prendre
des mesures à ce sujet. Recyc-Québec tient à jour une liste d’entreprises de démontage qui a été incluse
au répertoire des entreprises."
Peer comment(s):
agree chaplin : la traduction de l'entreprise indienne m'a bien fait rire!!hahahah
1 hr
Merci Ségolène !
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2 hrs
English term (edited): reuse flow

schéma (ou flux) de réutilisation

I suppose that "reuse flow" is one term as "management" or "reclamation". Otherwise the phrase were too strange.

Design of partial water reuse systems at White River NFH for the production of Atlantic salmon smolt for restoration stocking
:
Reuse flow required based on TAN (gpm). Total flow required based on TAN (gpm)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T...
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S014486090400057...

Abstract;The authors proposed a reuse management model of building steel structures from a viewpoint of environmental issues. In the cycle of a reuse flow, a kind of business management has all responsibility for supply of reusable members.
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200412/000020041204A03...

Participants responsibilities: Resp. CIDA - Water reuse flow chart and contaminants mass balance: CIDA SdM; Pilot reuse test: ENEA. WWTP testing: UNIFI
http://www.life-battle.bologna.enea.it/index.php?option=com_...

This chapter gives an overview of how to use ALM technology for
physical design reuse of different design types and styles, including standard cell blocks; full-custom designs, including datapath and memory; analog circuits; standard cell libraries; and physical compilers. Chapters 9, 10 and 11 discuss design reuse flows for the different applications in detail, based on real projects.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/r22p7682u40p5611/fulltex...

Note: Too less context to look for more specific terms. "Flow" can be understood either as "flux", "circulation", "organigram" or "schéma"
See translations for "flow diagram"
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
or "flow"
http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do?method=searc...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : it is 're-use flow' and 're-use management'; the word order makes it clear that 're-use' must qualify both nouns. In fact, it is pretty likely that it is actually 'flow' and 'management' of both 'reclamation and re-use'. It is the two 'and's that give it
3 days 1 hr
Both interpretations are possible. Reuse flow and Reuse management, as well as management and reuse flow. The grammaire allows no distinction betwen both. And both interpretations make sens.
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