Jan 3, 2012 22:33
12 yrs ago
English term

What if it heaved with gleaming cities

English to French Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
It is a short sentence I have to translate :

the context : the author describes what a beautiful world looked like.

it= beautiful world
I have part of the translation but I face a problem with the verb "to heave" in this context

Discussion

Antoine Heudre Jan 5, 2012:
Hello,

Although there are already many good suggestions, somehow I'm still wondering about your question. I guess it's the fact that it is so short and so decontextualised that makes it so puzzling.

In your comment, you said "the author describes what a beautiful world looked like" but it seems strange to me because when you have "what if + past tense", does it not indicate that the condition which is introduced is unreal ? (English speakers please correct me if I'm wrong).

"What if it heaved with gleaming cities" makes me think the author talks about how he sees the future, not the past.

Did you mean "the author describes what a beautiful world will look like/would look like".

The other puzzling thing is the opposition between "gleaming" and the rather pejorative "heaving", as stressed by Tony M. You're sure you don't have any more context?

Bon "je coupe les cheveux en quatre", and you've probably moved forward, but hey, if you have a minute ...

Thanks!

Proposed translations

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Et s'il s'édifiait en d'étincelantes cités ?

ou "sur" d'étincelantes cités ??

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Note added at 27 minutes (2012-01-03 23:00:43 GMT)
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heave
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Although in a literary context your departure from the s/t might be appropriate, I do rather feel that "s'édifier" rather misses some of the key point of 'heave' (meaning 'lots of', and oddly, usually pejorative)
3 hrs
En effet, je suis assez d'accord avec votre remarque.
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déborder

Et s'il (si ce monde) débordait de brillantes villes (cités)?
Peer comment(s):

agree GILLES MEUNIER
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agree kashew : As Tony says: not a compliment.
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agree enrico paoletti
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8 hrs

s'il pousser un soupir de ...

... just a thought
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9 hrs

Et s'il profusait d'étincelantes cités ?

"profuser" has a more positive meaning than "déborder"
Peer comment(s):

disagree Sara M : Profuser n'existe pas
1 day 12 hrs
yes, my mistake; another idea: Et s'il regorgait d'étincelantes cités ?
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Et s'il était couvert d'étincelantes cités ?

Une autre façon de tourner les choses.
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English term (edited): to heave

abonder (en)

autre suggestion

Et s'il abondait en...

Sinon, pourquoi pas "regorger de" ?
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tourbillon eclatant de

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et s'il s'épandait en villes scintillantes

J'ai pris le parti de conserver le rythme et l'assonance en /i/ du vers original.
Le verbe s'épandre, associé à l'adjectif "scintillant", donne une certaine fluidité à la phrase grâce à l'allitération en "s", qui permet aussi de véhiculer l'idée de débordement (impression que la phrase ne peut être dite que d'un trait, pas de temps de respiration entre les mots si on prononce la phrase).
Tout comme le terme "heaved", le terme s’épandre peut avoir une connotation négative - merci Tony pour cette remarque pertinente !
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