Mar 7, 2018 07:13
6 yrs ago
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Spanish term
patio corredor
Spanish to English
Other
Architecture
Transcript of a video about the history of a hotel in Mexico:
- Como parte de la remodelación, se transformó el patio corredor en el restaurante XXX...
I understand this is just a combination of patio and corredor, so a yard that also functions as a corridor to the different rooms.
Like this: https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g312817-...
I can only think of central yard/courtyard. Anything better?
Into U.S. English.
Thanks.
- Como parte de la remodelación, se transformó el patio corredor en el restaurante XXX...
I understand this is just a combination of patio and corredor, so a yard that also functions as a corridor to the different rooms.
Like this: https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g312817-...
I can only think of central yard/courtyard. Anything better?
Into U.S. English.
Thanks.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | galleried courtyard | philgoddard |
4 +4 | courtyard | neilmac |
3 +2 | veranda | Robert Carter |
Change log
Mar 7, 2018 18:50: philgoddard changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Other"
Proposed translations
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galleried courtyard
It's not just a courtyard - it's one that has one or more galleries running round the outside, as Joshua's Tripadvisor reference shows. Otherwise they'd just have said "patio".
There are more examples on Google Images:
http://www.google.com/search?q="patio corredor"&rlz=1C1SQJL_...
There are more examples on Google Images:
http://www.google.com/search?q="patio corredor"&rlz=1C1SQJL_...
Peer comment(s):
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bigedsenior
: that's it. stayed in one not too long ago that was that way
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Domini Lucas
: agree that if there wasn't a difference they would have just said patio
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you. I used this option in this end, although in the context, I think just "courtyard" would have worked too (especially as the text was going to be used for subtitles). "
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veranda
If you look at the pictures in this Wikipedia link, this is the same kind of architectural structure as the one in your Trip Advisor link. Seems to be used in the US too.
A veranda or verandah (from Portuguese varanda, IPA: [vɐˈɾɐ̃dɐ]) is a roofed, open-air gallery or porch.[1][2] A veranda is often partly enclosed by a railing and frequently extends across the front and sides of the structure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranda
Una veranda es una galería o porche techado abierto.1 También puede ser descrita como una galería abierta con columnas, generalmente techada, construida alrededor de una estructura central.2 A menudo se encuentra rodeada por una baranda y frecuentemente se ubica en el frente o laterales de la estructura.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranda
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I think you might also think about using the words "arcade" or even "cloister" at a push, though as I have said, cloister sounds a little too grand.
Veranda strikes me as more in keeping with the tone.
A veranda or verandah (from Portuguese varanda, IPA: [vɐˈɾɐ̃dɐ]) is a roofed, open-air gallery or porch.[1][2] A veranda is often partly enclosed by a railing and frequently extends across the front and sides of the structure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranda
Una veranda es una galería o porche techado abierto.1 También puede ser descrita como una galería abierta con columnas, generalmente techada, construida alrededor de una estructura central.2 A menudo se encuentra rodeada por una baranda y frecuentemente se ubica en el frente o laterales de la estructura.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veranda
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I think you might also think about using the words "arcade" or even "cloister" at a push, though as I have said, cloister sounds a little too grand.
Veranda strikes me as more in keeping with the tone.
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: Funnily enough, verandah is also used where I come from to describe small balconies...
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Thanks, Neil. One of the buildings in my primary school had exactly the same kind of structure and it was called a veranda. These are common in Mexican colonial-era buildings.
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Mónica Hanlan
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Thanks, Monica.
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philgoddard
: Maybe this is just me, and I know your reference says "gallery or porch", but I think of a veranda as something that's raised off the ground, even if only by a few inches. My house has one.
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Thanks, Phil, you'll have a better idea of its use than I have. I mentioned in the discussion that it's the same as a "cloister" in my lexicon, but I'm not sure about using that word as a description in a hotel.
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courtyard
See my discussion comment. I just think "courtyard" sounds a bit more grand and imposing (see links) and therefore perhaps more suitable for this type of text.
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Or (pax phil) "galleried courtyard", if you feel that "courtyard" on its own isn't enough.
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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs (2018-03-08 10:10:49 GMT)
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Or (pax phil) "galleried courtyard", if you feel that "courtyard" on its own isn't enough.
Example sentence:
Sovereign Suite and cobbled exterior entrance courtyard transformed into a restaurant
... garden courtyard, transformed into a restaurant, La Cour Jardin . serving lunch and dinner.
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Cherie Plaice
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Cecilia Gowar
: A "patio" can also be surrounded by verandas: "Espacio cerrado con paredes o galerías, que en las casas y otros edificios se suele dejar al descubierto."
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AllegroTrans
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MollyRose
: A very common word, courtyard, which can be in a central location between rooms, etc..
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philgoddard
: I don't think you can ignore "corredor".
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Discussion
On the other hand, to me, a courtyard is an open space.
courtyard - An unroofed area that is completely or partially enclosed by walls or buildings, typically one forming part of a castle or large house.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/courtyard
What this is in fact is in the style of a "cloister" of a convent, etc., but I'm not sure that would be appropriate for a hotel:
cloister - A covered walk in a convent, monastery, college, or cathedral, typically with a colonnade open to a quadrangle on one side..
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/cloister
Veranda seems the nearest thing to my mind, but as Phil says, it may have a slightly different meaning in the US, at least in the south, i.e., a raised porch.
veranda - A roofed platform along the outside of a house, level with the ground floor.