Mar 25, 2012 07:37
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English term

adjoined meeting

English to French Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
Proxies may only validly be appointed by a notice in writing which is delivered to the Company in accordance with the Articles not less than 48 hours before the time appointed for holding the meeting or adjoined meeting at which the right to vote is to be exercised and in accordance with any instructions contained in the notice of the general meeting (or adjoined meeting) to which they relate
Proposed translations (French)
5 +1 "Adjourned" rather than adjoined
3 +1 séance supplémentaire
1 réunion latérale

Discussion

danièle davout Apr 14, 2012:
assemblée ajournée => reprise d'assemblée The Limited Partners present in person or by proxy at any adjourned meeting will constitute a quorum.
Les commanditaires présents ou représentés par procuration à toute reprise d'assemblée constituent le quorum.
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Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
Simple (and found a lot in similar statutes etc.) — if someone has been given a right of proxy to vote at one meeting, it is clearly important to state whether or not they retain that right if for some reason that meeting is adjourned.
Françoise Vogel Mar 25, 2012:
dans le contexte quelle raison y aurait-il d'exercer un droit de vote à un "adjourned meeting" ?
Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
Not dismiss... I did Google it, and if you eliminate examples like "adjoined meeting room(s)" (also an error, since it ought really to be 'adjoining', I ended up with only 650 hits, which is not really convincing proof that it exists as a valid term, in fact, the paucity of results does tend to point to an error. BTW, I didn't of course look at all 650 hits, but of the several I did look at in detail, they were all in some way related to a situation of adjournment or postponement of some meeting or other.

In fact, by eliminating a single reference taken from a description of a Batman film, the number of hits I got comes down to around 484, and the more I look at in detail, the more I see this 'error' for 'adjourned' — I note that a lot of these come from historical US sources.
polyglot45 Mar 25, 2012:
Google "adjoined meeting" There are LOTS of examples, often from the UK
Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
Similar context, same 'error' RUDESAT INTERNATIONAL | Constitution

www.rudsat.org/contents.php?page=6

... place convening the meeting, not less than 48 hours before the time for holding the meeting or adjoined meeting at which the person named in the instrument ...

And from the same document:

If within half an hour from the time appointed for the meeting a quorum is not present, the meeting if convened upon the requisition of members shall be dissolved, and in any other case it shall stand adjourned to the same day in the next week at the same time and place, and if at such adjourned meeting a quorum is not present within half an hour from the time appointed for the meeting, the meeting shall then be dissolved.

cf. the similar one quoted earlier:

Welcome To NCAF

www.nacf.in/bordofmeting.htm

In the event that the meeting is adjourned for lack of a quorum, the adjoined meeting shall require no quorum and can be held within the period of one month but ...
Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
@ P/G Sorry, but 'adjourned' does make perfect sense in the context as given — and sadly, your FR ref. below proves nothing, except that a FR term exists. Have you so far found any bilingual refs. containing both terms? I haven't yet...

BTW, please could you re-post the full link you mentioned just below, as sadly it has got corrupted (yet again!)
polyglot45 Mar 25, 2012:
@Tony OK - you've found some cases of error but, sorry, adjourned, doesn't make sense in context, especially if you look at "my" French reference below - and this:
... Report of Committee to stockholders at adjoined meeting, June 29 ... www.amazon.com/Report...adjoined-meeting/dp/B0008CTHV8Cache...
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Amazon.com: ... Report of Committee to stockholders at adjoined meeting, June 29, 1876: Mass Atlantic Cotton Mills. Lawrence: Books.
Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
@ P/G Well, I thought so too, but 'adjoined' is such a very odd word to find in EN, and just look at this Google hit I found which does seemingly contain the very same error:

Bylaws
www.scmrs.net/docs/bylaws_5.html

3 Sep 2008 –
... fixed at the meeting adjourned and if such adjoined meeting is held no more than twenty-four (24) hours from the time of the original meeting.

And here is another example where it is quite clear it is simply an error:

Regular Monthly Meeting Minutes for October

www.leaguelineup.com/.../WWSO BOD ...
... come up during the season, how to cut costs for registration fees incurred to WWSO. That concluded New Business. The President adjoined meeting at 9:57 pm.

and here again:

Welcome To NCAF

www.nacf.in/bordofmeting.htm

In the event that the meeting is adjourned for lack of a quorum, the adjoined meeting shall require no quorum and can be held within the period of one month but ...

To my mind, the fact that there are only 650 Ghits for "adjoined meeting" only serves to confirm that it is an error (compared to over a million for "adjourned meeting").
polyglot45 Mar 25, 2012:
@Tony - think you're fabulating a bit - clearly it is "réunion connexe" of some sort
Tony M Mar 25, 2012:
Typo / scanno? I have a nasty suspicion this might be an error for 'adjourned' — possibly a dictation error, or an original typo miscorrected by a spell-checker.

Do you know what country this document is from? Certain American regional accents could make the '-er-' sound in 'adjourned' sound like the '-oy-' sound in 'adjoined' (cf. New York 'dirt' > 'doyt'!)

Proposed translations

+1
58 mins
Selected

"Adjourned" rather than adjoined

On the basis of the passage,I am questioning very seriously that might be a spelling error.
Example sentence:

Postponed meeting

Peer comment(s):

neutral polyglot45 : sorry but no
12 mins
have a look at this link please"http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/anglais-francais/adjourn
disagree Anne-Marie Laliberté (X) : Aller voter lors d'une réunion ajournée ou reportée ? Je crois que c'est faire fausse route... à contresens.
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agree Tony M
20 days
neutral danièle davout : en fait "adjoined" est peut-être un terme inventé pour lever l'ambiguité .. de adjourned
20 days
agree VeroniquePhelut
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "je me posais la même question.. je pense qu'il y a une erreur dans l'anglais"
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réunion latérale

en pensant à "side-meeting"
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : I understand the idea, but do remember that 'adjoined' means 'attenant', and in any case isn't usually used with this sort of meaning in EN. I'd be happier if I could find any solid bilingual refs. :-(
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séance supplémentaire

une séance supplémentaire pour discuter de nouvelles propositions et voter le ... limités que la majorité a proposé de reporter le vote à la semaine prochaine

Si l'application des dispositions du présent alinéa a eu pour effet de reporter l'élection .... est réunie de plein droit pour des séances supplémentaires pour permettre, ...
Peer comment(s):

agree danièle davout : reprise d'assemblée
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Reference comments

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Reference:

réunions connexes

125ème Assemblée et réunions connexes www.ipu.org/conf-f/125agnd.htmEn cache
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L'ordre du jour de l'Assemblée; Programme général de l'Assemblée et réunions connexes; Journal quotidien; Demandes d'inscription d'un point d'urgence ...


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Birmingham Art Circle, Adjoined Annual Meeting, 20 January 1893 ... sculpture.gla.ac.uk/view/reference.php?id=msib4_1207924370Cached
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Birmingham Art Circle, Adjoined Annual Meeting, 20 January 1893, Birmingham Art Circle Minutes and Reports. Type: Minutes. Publisher & Place of Publication: ...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Tony M : But that would really translate 'associated meetings' — 'adjoined' is a bizarre word to use in EN!
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but it exists and,though I'm no legal expert, could be legalese - you can't dismiss it just like that
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