Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
any other matters
French translation:
de toute autre nature
Added to glossary by
Lorraine Dubuc
Jan 4, 2014 02:42
10 yrs ago
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English term
United States
any other matters
English to French
Other
Law: Contract(s)
In no event (including, without limitation, in the event of negligence) will Air Software, its employees, agents or distributors be liable for any consequential, incidental, indirect, special or punitive damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of profits, loss of use, business interruption, loss of information or data, or pecuniary loss), in connection with or arising out of or related to this Agreement, the Software or the use or inability to use the Software or the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder whether based upon contract, tort or any other theory including negligence, even if Air Software has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
Proposed translations
(French)
| 3 +1 | de toute autre nature |
Lorraine Dubuc
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| 3 +1 | toute autre disposition |
philippe vandevivere
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| 4 | toutes autres sources |
Beila Goldberg
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| 4 -1 | toutes autres prestations |
Daryo
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Change log
Jan 9, 2014 12:41: Lorraine Dubuc changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1443464">Thierry Darlis's</a> old entry - " any other matters"" to ""de toute autre nature""
Proposed translations
+1
3 hrs
Selected
de toute autre nature
je crois
Peer comment(s):
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Beila Goldberg
: Une formulation qui a mon accord car elle n'induit aucun contresens juridique.
3 days 5 hrs
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Merci!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
5 hrs
philippe vandevivere
France
France
Native in French
France
PhD Biotech & process engineer
Native in: French 
Works in: Dutch to French, English to French, Spanish to French, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
toute autre disposition
mise en oeuvre ou utilisation de toute autre disposition ci-incluse
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
FX Fraipont (X)
24 mins
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-1
1 day 16 hrs
English term (edited):
any other matters
toutes autres prestations
"matters" could refer to many different things, but when you analyse this long sentence, you can see that here "matters" is part of a list of different services to clients, so it would be:
"la provision, les performances ou ... de toutes autres prestations (sous le présent contrat)"
In no event … will … Air Software … be liable for any ... damages whatsoever … in connection with … ( this Agreement, the Software or the use or inability to use the Software or ) the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder ... whether based …
abbreviated from:
In no event (including, without limitation, in the event of negligence)
will [Air Software, its employees, agents or distributors] be liable for any
consequential, incidental, indirect, special or punitive damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of profits, loss of use, business interruption, loss of information or data, or pecuniary loss),
in connection with
or arising out of
or related to
-- this Agreement,
-- the Software
-- or the use or inability to use the Software
-- or the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder
whether based upon
- contract,
- tort
- or any other theory including negligence,
even if Air Software has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
"la provision, les performances ou ... de toutes autres prestations (sous le présent contrat)"
In no event … will … Air Software … be liable for any ... damages whatsoever … in connection with … ( this Agreement, the Software or the use or inability to use the Software or ) the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder ... whether based …
abbreviated from:
In no event (including, without limitation, in the event of negligence)
will [Air Software, its employees, agents or distributors] be liable for any
consequential, incidental, indirect, special or punitive damages whatsoever (including, without limitation, damages for loss of profits, loss of use, business interruption, loss of information or data, or pecuniary loss),
in connection with
or arising out of
or related to
-- this Agreement,
-- the Software
-- or the use or inability to use the Software
-- or the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder
whether based upon
- contract,
- tort
- or any other theory including negligence,
even if Air Software has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Beila Goldberg
: http://www.lecourshebert.com/dictionnaire-juridique/details/...
http://www.dictionnaire-juridique.com/definition/prestation-...
5 hrs
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My point is that if you don't start by parsing the ST in the right way, you'll get the right nuance only by pure luck. La même méthode reste valable en français … исто и на српском...
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1 hr
toutes autres sources
Ce serait ma traduction en comprenant qu'il s'agit d'objet ou de source de litige.
Source, dans leur énumération me semble plus approprié qu'objet ...
Usage de toutes autres sources ...
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Note added at 3 jours8 heures (2014-01-07 11:11:41 GMT)
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http://office.microsoft.com/fr-be/products/contrat-de-licenc...
Source, dans leur énumération me semble plus approprié qu'objet ...
Usage de toutes autres sources ...
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Note added at 3 jours8 heures (2014-01-07 11:11:41 GMT)
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http://office.microsoft.com/fr-be/products/contrat-de-licenc...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
12 mins
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Merci Gilou !
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| agree |
writeaway
7 hrs
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Merci writeaway !
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| disagree |
Daryo
: "il s'agit d'objet ou de source de litige" that would be a reasonable assumption, until you do some parsing. What would be the “performance” or the “use” of a bone of contention?
1 day 14 hrs
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Si vos langues "native" sont le serbe et le français, je vous remercie d'avoir l'obligeance de reformuler tout votre commentaire en français.
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Nadaud (X)
: La traduction "toutes autres prestations" proposée par Daryo me paraît exacte. Il s'agit des préjudices découlant du contrat, du logiciel, de l'utilisation ou du défaut d'utilisation du logiciel et de toutes autres prestations contractuelles.
2 days 13 hrs
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Discussion
Je n'ai évidemment pas compris que vous aviez écrit dans votre commentaire (en serbe ?) mais maintenant effacé par moi.
Je ne suis revenue sur les Kudoz après des années que pour venir en aide et sans aucun intérêt pour gagner des points ni discuter de cette façon.
Thierry37 fera son choix et qui n'engagera que sa propre responsabilité de traducteur.
Selon mon expérience, s'il a un proofreader, celui-ci en connaîtra aussi peu dans le domaine.
Je ne peux que recommander à tous les traducteurs qui s'engagent dans une traduction juridique d'avoir une très bonne assurance.
Ceci est ma dernière intervention sur cette question.
In no event … will … Air Software … be liable for any ... damages whatsoever … in connection with … ( this Agreement, the Software or the use or inability to use the Software or ) the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters hereunder ... whether based …
When proposing a translation for furnishing, you said that "AI fournit un service informatique ..."
but to translate "matters" wich is part of "the furnishing, performance or use of any other matters
you switch to the service offered by this company being "objet ou de source de litige"?
Put this two together and this company is not proividing services, but good excuses for litigation.
Even if it was true, I don't think they would advertise that in their Terms and Conditions.