Jul 22, 2020 11:07
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English term
Juntine88
Not a translator
perfected order
FVA
English to Polish
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Court order for a company being wound up
I have the fragments below taken from an official document issued by The High Court of Ireland:
It is ordered that said Order dated the 18th day of June 2020 be and the same is hereby vacated (the Court noting that said Order has not been perfected).
AND
It is ordered that the Director of the Company make out and file a Statement as to the affairs of the Company within twenty-one days of the date of perfection of the within Order.
It is ordered that said Order dated the 18th day of June 2020 be and the same is hereby vacated (the Court noting that said Order has not been perfected).
AND
It is ordered that the Director of the Company make out and file a Statement as to the affairs of the Company within twenty-one days of the date of perfection of the within Order.
Proposed translations
(Polish)
| 2 | wykonane postanowienie |
Kamila Ołtarzewska
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| 2 | przygotowane/sporządzone postanowienie // zatwierdzone postanowienie |
mike23
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References
| perfection |
geopiet
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Proposed translations
1 hr
Kamila Ołtarzewska
Poland
Poland
Native in Polish
Specializes in field
Poland
EN-PL translator interpreter since 2000s
Native in: Polish
Works in: Polish to English, English to Polish
Related KudoZ points
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253
wykonane postanowienie
wg. Dictionary of Law Terms (by Ewa Myrczak) p. 107 może to oznaczać
postanowienie/nakaz;
a drugie słowo podpowiada zdrowy rozum (intuicja)
postanowienie/nakaz;
a drugie słowo podpowiada zdrowy rozum (intuicja)
1 day 5 hrs
przygotowane/sporządzone postanowienie // zatwierdzone postanowienie
1. przygotowane/sporządzone postanowienie (sądu)
2. postanowienie zatwierdzone (pieczęcią/wpisem do systemu)
Pewność co do terminów wciąż niska, ale z małym plusem. Udało mi się wygrzebać trochę, a nawet uzyskać informacje od prawnika z Irlandii. Szczegóły w dyskusji.
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Note added at 1 day 5 hrs (2020-07-23 17:05:20 GMT)
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Opcja 3: postanowienie sporządzone i potwierdzone/zatwierdzone
Wiemy, że postanowienie ma być sporządzone/przygotowane, opatrzone pieczęcią i wprowadzone do systemu, brak jest jednak jednego wyrazu. Na stronach UE użyto "ogłoszenie (perfection) postanowienia", ale wydaje mi się, że lepszym zwrotem byłoby "zatwierdzenie (perfection) postanowienia". Może czas zweryfikuje moje pomysły.
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Note added at 2 days 7 hrs (2020-07-24 18:24:23 GMT)
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Jeszcze odnośnie wyrazu "order" - w przepisach znalazłem że 'perfection' dotyczy 'judgement or order', ale możliwe, że order to wyrok, nie postanowienie. Tak tez sugerował prawnik z Irlandii.
Opcja kolejna: sporządzony/zatwierdzony wyrok
2. postanowienie zatwierdzone (pieczęcią/wpisem do systemu)
Pewność co do terminów wciąż niska, ale z małym plusem. Udało mi się wygrzebać trochę, a nawet uzyskać informacje od prawnika z Irlandii. Szczegóły w dyskusji.
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Note added at 1 day 5 hrs (2020-07-23 17:05:20 GMT)
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Opcja 3: postanowienie sporządzone i potwierdzone/zatwierdzone
Wiemy, że postanowienie ma być sporządzone/przygotowane, opatrzone pieczęcią i wprowadzone do systemu, brak jest jednak jednego wyrazu. Na stronach UE użyto "ogłoszenie (perfection) postanowienia", ale wydaje mi się, że lepszym zwrotem byłoby "zatwierdzenie (perfection) postanowienia". Może czas zweryfikuje moje pomysły.
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Note added at 2 days 7 hrs (2020-07-24 18:24:23 GMT)
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Jeszcze odnośnie wyrazu "order" - w przepisach znalazłem że 'perfection' dotyczy 'judgement or order', ale możliwe, że order to wyrok, nie postanowienie. Tak tez sugerował prawnik z Irlandii.
Opcja kolejna: sporządzony/zatwierdzony wyrok
Discussion
https://www.matheson.com/images/uploads/documents/Litigation...
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Moje pytanie: Szukamy polskiego odpowiednika dla zwrotów: to perfect a court order / perfected order / (order) perfection.
Odpowiedź:
"to perfect a court order" znaczy tyle co przygotować pisemny wyrok. Czasem zajmuje to kilka dni, zanim wydany ustnie na rozprawie wyrok zostanie przygotowany na piśmie. Chodzi o sam wyrok, nie zaś o jego pisemne uzasadnienie.
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58 In England, a judgment or order is now ‘perfected by being sealed by the court’ under CPR 1998, r.40.2(2)(b) (per Baroness Hale of Richmond, JSC in In re L and another (Children) (Preliminary Finding: Power to Reverse), [2013] UKSC 8; [2013] 1 WLR 634, [19]). With respect to Australia, compare Campbell, E, ‘Revocation and Variation of Administrative Decisions’ (1996) 22 MonLR 30, 33 Google Scholar—‘The judgments and orders of courts of record are not perfected until they have been formally passed and entered in the court's records’ (internal citations omitted).
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-and-co...
a court can always recall and vary an order before it is perfected (in this case by drawing up, sealing and filing)
https://www.equalityni.org/ECNI/media/ECNI/Cases and Settlem...
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The registrar in the High Court perfects the order. That is done by the person actually typing up the order and putting on the Courts system. It can be done as quickly as on the the day the order was given by the judge or it can take months for the registrar to actually type up the order.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057724076
The handing down of judgment in your favour is usually cause for celebration. In most cases such celebration is entirely appropriate. However, it might be premature, as until the final order following judgment is perfected by the court (by its being sealed) a judge is entitled to change his (or her) mind.
https://gowlingwlg.com/en/insights-resources/articles/2015/w...
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_procedures_for_enforcing...
https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_procedures_for_enforcing...
when does an order become perfected? does a perfected oirder have to be dated in order to be perfected? can you request leave from to the Supreme court without a perfected order?
1. An order is perfected when the High Court Registrar who is the registrar in the case affixes the High Court seal to the Order as drawn up and drafted by him or her. The Order will be dated by the High Court Registrar before it is perfected. However, you can in certain circumstances get leave without a perfected order. One example would be where there was particular urgency about the case, such as a person going to die, or an abortion about to take place. However, in all other cases, you have to await the perfecting of the Order by the High Court Registrar before you can move forward on the basis of the perfected order.
https://www.justanswer.com/ireland-law/8qsqu-when-does-order...