Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

college X university

Portuguese translation:

faculdade x universidade

Added to glossary by Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Mar 19, 2011 13:44
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English term

college X university

English to Portuguese Social Sciences Human Resources HR form
Numa lista para preencher em um formulário de Recursos Humanos de uma firma inglesa:
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Highest level of education completed:
a) school
b) college
c) university
d) above
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Mar 21, 2011 11:47: Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida Created KOG entry

Discussion

Nick Taylor Mar 22, 2011:
Quandt - Very succinct Very succinct and informative, option 2 of your entry!
Carlos Quandt Mar 21, 2011:
Highest level of education completed Evidentemente, a resposta escolhida gerou muitas dúvidas. Na maior parte das situações, "faculdade x universidade" seria a opção óbvia.
A confusão toda está relacionada aos múltiplos significados de "college" no contexto inglês. Nesse contexto específico, "college" pode ser 1) "colégio" ou escola secundária; 2) escola pós-secundária, de ensino técnico, profissionalizante, ou o "tecnólogo" no Brasil; 3) uma faculdade isolada; 4) uma unidade de uma universidade.
A chave da melhor tradução está no contexto (formulário de uma firma inglesa sobre nível de escolaridade). Se a pessoa tem curso superior, é irrelevante se ela estudou em faculdade ou universidade. Tudo indica que o formulário se refere a um nível intermediário, algo entre o ensino médio e a universidade. Ou seja, o significado "2" acima.
A escolha da melhor tradução cabe ao consulente, mas não custa adotar uma atitude prudente. Caso existam dúvidas quanto à intenção do autor do texto original, o melhor caminho é consultar o cliente :)
Nick Taylor Mar 21, 2011:
Highest level of education complet is the key! It is certainly not "faculdade" as in Pt this means a department of a University.
As I pointed out it is a level of education between secondary school and University - such as any Professional or Vocational course but usually without a degree as a qualification. In the UK there are Technical Colleges etc which may provide courses for Electricians, Plumbers etc. In Caldas da Rainha where I teach in ESAD which is part of The Politécnico de Leiria, we provide degree and non degree courses. Other schools such as CENCAL and O CENFIM é um centro protocolar de âmbito nacional, que promove a orientação e valorização profissional no sector Metalúrgico, Metalomecânico etc, would undoubtedly be referred to as Colleges in UK
rir Mar 21, 2011:
seria formado na faculdade de por exemplo Letras/Direito/ da Universidade de Lisboa, que tem várias faculdades/cursos superiores.
Como se trata de um texto inglês, parece que se pode referir tanto a 'colégio' de ensino secundário como a qualquer outro 'colégio' ou 'instituto' de ensino superior, público ou privado, incuindo a faculdade de uma universidade.
Nick Taylor Mar 21, 2011:
Sincere I sincerely believe that the incorrect answer was chosen - College in this case is almost certainly not Faculdade.
Marcos Antonio Mar 21, 2011:
Faculdade x Universidade Sem questionar a decisão tomada e mesmo já estando a questão fechada, fica uma dúvida quando ao "mais alto nível educacional". Imaginemos o concludente de um curso de engenharia, numa Faculdade de Engenharia pertencente a uma Universidade: qual seria seu nível educacional? Ele seria formado numa faculdade ou numa universidade?
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral (asker) Mar 21, 2011:
Agradeço a Teresa, Nick, Marlene, Rir, Quandt, Marcos Antônio e os demais.
Antonio Tomas
Marlene Curtis Mar 19, 2011:
College vs university Career colleges in the USA are privately run institutions offering quality career-oriented training, including trades and apprenticeships and university transfer programs. They offer short (3- to 23-month) certificates and diplomas designed give students the knowledge and skills they need to get the jobs they want.

http://www.dzo.ufla.br/ca/informacoes/Equinos/ARABE.htm
Marlene Curtis Mar 19, 2011:
Nos EUA há as chamdas "community colleges" (três anos de duração) que estão logo abaixo e dão acesso às universidades e que não são parte das escolas secundárias.
Neste caso, creio que diria ensino primário, ensino secundário, ensino superior e ensino pós-graduado.
Nick Confesso que não tinha reparado em "Highest level of education completed" e o Antonio induziu-me erro pela forma como articulou a pergunta...
Nick Não necessariamente... Por exemplo: a Escola Superior Artística da Faculdade de Arquitectura da Universidade do Porto...
Nick Taylor Mar 19, 2011:
typical CV there are faculdades in a university, but in the context given the "college" appears in a chronological position rather than a complementry one
rir Mar 19, 2011:
ensino superior ou pós secundário, não necesariamente feito numa universidade, apesar de haver colleges em universidades.
http://www.answers.com/college?afid=TBarLookup&nafid=27

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faculdade x universidade

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disagree Nick Taylor : there are faculdades in a university, but in the context given the "college" appears in a chronological position rather than a complementry one
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(escola/colégio) décimo primeiro e décimo segundo ano

(escola/colégio) décimo primeiro e décimo segundo ano etc.
this is the classification in Pt/Pt, it may be the same as the "school" "sixth form college" "escola profissional"etc.
In other words anything after 16 yrs old but before university
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Nick, muito obrigado. Antonio Tomás
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Reference:

College - UK

In the United Kingdom, usage of the word "college" remains the loosest, encompassing a range of institutions:

Secondary education

Some secondary schools, both state (e.g. Ivybridge Community College) and independent (e.g. Eton College or Hurstpierpoint College), use "college" as part of their name. Some secondary schools in Cambridgeshire are called village colleges and aim to be centres for the community as well as for their students. In addition, although many state and most independent schools have sixth forms, some students study for A Levels at separate sixth form colleges.

Further education

A further education college (FE college) is an institution between secondary school and university. It usually offers a wide range of vocational courses and adult education. Most students are aged from 16 into adulthood, but some 14-16 year olds are sent from their schools on a part-time basis for vocational study that the schools are not equipped to deliver. Many FE colleges offer A Levels, often in a sixth-form centre. Some colleges have higher education provision, normally accredited by a university in the region.

Higher education
Main article: Colleges within universities in the United Kingdom

In relation to universities, the term college normally refers to a part of the university which does not have degree-awarding powers in itself. Degrees are always awarded by universities whereas colleges are institutions or organizations which prepare students for the degree. Most universities do not have colleges; those that do are referred to as collegiate universities.

In the University of Oxford, University of Cambridge, University of London and University of the Arts London (and formerly in the University of Wales), colleges prepare students for the degree of the university of which the college is a part (although the colleges of London are now de facto universities in their own right). In the other collegiate universities, including the University of Lancaster, University of York, University of Kent, University of St Andrews and University of Durham, the colleges only provide accommodation and pastoral care.

A college may also be an independent institution which prepares students to sit as external candidates at other universities or has the authority to run courses that lead to the degrees of those universities. A university college is now an independent higher education institution that has the power to award degrees, but does not have university status, although it is usually working towards it. The term used to refer to colleges set up by universities in other towns, all of which have now been chartered as universities in their own right (e.g. the University of Newcastle, which was originally a university college of the University of Durham).

"College" may also be a name given to large groupings of faculties or departments, notably in the University of Edinburgh, and after recent restructuring, the University of Birmingham and the University of Leicester.

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O contexto parece se referir a "further education college (FE college)", que seria mais ou menos equivalente ao ensino "pós-médio" no Brasil (educação
profissional e tecnológica).
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School/College/University/Above

O formulário se refere ao mais alto nível de ensino completado-School/College/University/Above... Desta forma, acredito que os níveis apresentados estariam relacionados a:

Curso Médio - School;
Superior(licenatura curta)/Tecnólogo - College;
Superior (licenciatura plena)-University;
Pos-Graduação/Doutorado - Above


- The difference between the words college and university depend very much upon where you live. In many cases, in the US, a college refers to a four year advanced education only, and an institution which does not have the accreditation to offer more than a bachelor’s degree. College may also be restricted by its modifiers. For example, a technical college may offer Associate of Arts degrees or certification in certain fields only. A junior college or community college also offers a variety of A.A. degrees and certification programs.

Traditionally, the term college applied to a part of a university. Large universities may be split into colleges or departments that offer different degrees. In a sense, the university unified different colleges. The University of California, Berkeley, for instance, has colleges of music, science, law, and liberal arts, to name a few. Deans or heads of the college oversee each college, but the ability to grant degrees is through the overhead university. Most large universities also offer advanced degrees like PhDs and Master’s degrees. A four-year college, not attached to a university may only offer bachelor’s degrees.
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-college-a... university.htm

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University vs College
The difference between a college and a university is that generally a college offers set of degrees in one specific area whereas a university has a collection of colleges.
For instance when someone goes to a university he/she will graduate from one of their colleges such as Business College or Engineering College. Most of the time, universities are well known and they are larger than colleges.
The difference between both college and university varies between the USA and the rest of the world.

In USA, universities are larger and have many colleges within them.

UK- a university can provides degree, colleges usually depends on a fully-fledged university validating its degrees. Sometimes colleges do not even provide degree level education at all.



Mostly, community colleges are very different from universities they cannot offer a 4 year degree such as B.A or B.Sc. They can offer trade and technical certifications and training.



Read more: Difference Between Colleges and Universities | Difference Between | Colleges vs Universities http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-be...
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agree Carlos Quandt : Concordo. Como observei, O contexto (UK) parece se referir a "further education college (FE college)", que seria mais ou menos equivalente ao ensino "pós-médio" no Brasil (educação profissional e tecnológica).
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