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Talking in Tongues

Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

bear left

English answer:

turn left

Added to glossary by airmailrpl
Jul 24, 2015 08:09
8 yrs ago
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English term

bear left

English Other Transport / Transportation / Shipping driving & traffic
Is "bear left" different from "Turn left"?
Responses
4 -3 turn left
References
Discussion of subject in another forum
Change log

Jul 24, 2015 09:24: Tony M changed "Field (specific)" from "Wine / Oenology / Viticulture" to "Transport / Transportation / Shipping"

Aug 17, 2015 11:02: airmailrpl Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (2): Tony M, Yvonne Gallagher

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Discussion

Tony M Aug 3, 2015:
@ airmail Yes, but Asker is talking about Chinese — in EN, there is a clear and well-known difference that cannot simply be ignored.
airmailrpl Aug 3, 2015:
do not have obvious differences... >do not have obvious differences when we describe them.
That is why I said "bear left" => turn left
Ivan Niu (asker) Aug 3, 2015:
Thank you all The links and reference provided are helpful. In this case, it makes me feel that "bear left" is kind of "untranslatable" in English to Chinese translation - In Chinese, we do have such signs but do not have obvious differences when we describe them.
Thanks a lot!
Tony M Jul 24, 2015:
@ Charles Thanks a lot!

All 3 links are working just fine for me.
Charles Davis Jul 24, 2015:
Sorry to hear that They do for me. For the record, the sign is an arrow whose left-hand section is at 45º from the vertical instead of 90º. Not that bearing left always involves an angle of 45º, of course, but it does (normally) involve an angle of appreciably less than 90º, or indeed a curve.
airmailrpl Jul 24, 2015:
the "bear left".. the "bear left" links do not work
Charles Davis Jul 24, 2015:
Road signs Here are some "turn left" signs:
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/keyword/left-turn-sign

Here's a "bear left" sign:
http://www.cpcsigns.com/images/M52LBIG.jpg
from here:
http://www.cpcsigns.com/trafficmileroutemarkers.html
Tony M Jul 24, 2015:
'bear left' Usually indicates that there is no specific 'turn' involved — it's the sort of instruction you might get at a Y junction (though 'fork left' might be commoner); it's the sort of thing where, for example, the main road bends to the left, but there is another side road going off to the right in the bend, and the person giving directions wants to make sure you stay on the main road and keep on going round to the left. Of course, in a case where the 'main' and 'side' roads were reversed compared to my example, the instruction might be more significant.
Ivan Niu (asker) Jul 24, 2015:
sorry I just found that I chose the wrong option. Ignore viticulture. They are two strings in the GPS system
Shera Lyn Parpia Jul 24, 2015:
you need to give more context! What doe this have to do with viticulture?

Responses

-3
1 hr
Selected

turn left

bear left => turn left
Peer comment(s):
disagree Tony M : Not really! There is a subtle difference... Luckily, GPS is no authority on the niceties of the EN language. / Yes, but she has a strictly limited vocabulary; it would complicate GPS software no end to have to try and decide between turn/bear/fork etc.
10 mins
not what GPS says...and that lovely lady speaks English so well in my GPS..actually she says "bear left" when she should say "turn left" and it has caused some difficulties when driving .. good thing she can't hear what I have to say when this happens
neutral Armorel Young : "bear left" means "head (slightly) left" - there may not be any actual turn involved
22 mins
not what GPS says...a left turn can be anything from 1 degree all the way through 179 degrees
neutral Suzan Hamer : Or perhaps "keep to the left", meaning stay on the left, do not take any options that go off to the right. Dictionary definition: "to tend in a course or direction; move; go: to bear west; to bear left at the fork in the road."
1 hr
not what GPS says
neutral Simon Mac : not quite the same, despite what GPS says. At least in the UK
3 hrs
Glad I don't have to drive in the UK - they all drive on the wrong side of the road anyways
disagree Phoenix III : Turn is not the same as keep
3 hrs
who said anything about "Keep" ??
disagree Cilian O'Tuama : actually "keep" or "stay" come closer than "turn" // Yes, but your "to turn" is very ausbaufähig
14 hrs
the original source term was "bear"....ausbaufähig => upgradeable ??? Sorry I do not understand !!
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thank you!"

Reference comments

14 mins
Reference:

Discussion of subject in another forum

Word Reference discussion of these terms.
Reference:

http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/to-bear-left-v-s-to-turn-left.2020363/

Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Tony M
1 hr
Thank you.
agree Suzan Hamer : Yes. The question is "Is 'bear left" different from "Turn left'?" The answer is "yes", and the discussion at the link you give explains it.
3 hrs
Thank you.
agree Simon Mac
4 hrs
Thank you.
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
13 hrs
Thank you.
agree Yvonne Gallagher
14 hrs
Thank you.
agree Alok Tiwari
3 days 1 hr
Thank you.
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