Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Collier d’agneau

English translation:

neck of lamb

Added to glossary by sfreland
Nov 3, 2008 11:33
15 yrs ago
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French term

Collier d’agneau

French to English Other Cooking / Culinary cook book
a recipe by 3 star chef Bras called "Pièce d’agneau d’Oc rôtie" for which incidentally I would love to have suggestions!
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Discussion

kashew Nov 3, 2008:
Same doubt here!
Melissa McMahon Nov 3, 2008:
"collier d'agneau" isn't really a 3-star cut - is that what is given in a description/recipe for the "pièce"?

Proposed translations

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2 mins
Selected

neck of lamb

Pretty well-known cut/dish...
Peer comment(s):

agree carolynf
4 mins
agree Enza Longo
4 mins
agree kashew
6 mins
agree Tony M : See illustration on this site for FR lamb cuts: http://www.civ-viande.org/5-39-gastronomie-agneau.html
6 mins
agree Pauline Teale : Sorry, I was busy posting my answer so didn't see yours.
7 mins
agree Kate Hudson (X)
38 mins
agree Jocelyn Fong
1 hr
agree emiledgar
1 hr
agree lundy
1 hr
agree Nina Iordache : http://www.medisite.fr/medisite/Le-collier-d-agneau.html
1 hr
agree NancyLynn
2 hrs
agree bookwormkt : It is delicious when cooked long and slow. My late mother, who was from Wales, taught me her recipe years ago.
9 hrs
agree Cervin
9 hrs
agree jean-jacques alexandre
4 days
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9 mins

best end of lamb neck

I think that is what collier d'agneau is, technically but it's not normally a great joint for roasting, more for stews, I thought.

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Note added at 25 mins (2008-11-03 11:58:55 GMT)
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Given Tony's point, I think this would be better as "Best end of neck of lamb" - lots of google hits confirm that.

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Note added at 28 mins (2008-11-03 12:02:00 GMT)
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There's a picture here of where different cuts come from http://www.theeveninginn.com/recipearticledisplay.aspx?artic...

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Note added at 42 mins (2008-11-03 12:15:22 GMT)
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The same site describes the different bits of neck and only "best end" is suitable for roasting see as follows:
"Best End of Neck
This is a versatile cut and comes from between the middle neck and loin (see the diagram). It’s great for braising or roasting on the bone. Two famous roasts come from the best end of neck: the crown roast and the guard of honour. Give the butcher a few days notice and he’ll prepare these very extravagant and impressive roasts for you.

Middle Neck
This cut comes from between the best end of neck and the scrag end. It is really only suitable for braising because of it’s fat content.


Scrag End of Neck
This cut comes from the nearest the head. It is only sold already chopped for casseroling and braising. As it contains a lot of bone and gristle, it is a relatively cheap cut and needs very slow cooking for a very long time to make it tender.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : But there is a serious flaw here: what you are describing is perfectly correct, of course, but is NOT actually the same cut as 'collier'; what you're describing (and yr ref. shows) is called 'côtes découvertes' in FR
1 min
No, because it is the best end of the neck, not of the lamb. If it was already made clear elsewhere that it was lamb that was referred to, then we'd just say "best end of neck" (that's what the celebrity chef Delia Smith calls it)
neutral kashew : I know we say that in Blighty but for a French 3 Michelin* menu it is the best by definition.
13 mins
Sorry but there is a big difference between "best end of neck" and "scrag", which is the "bad" end of neck
agree Jennifer Forbes : It's called "best end of neck (of lamb) in the UK, an excellent cut. "Scrag end" is used for long, slow cooking, such as Irish stew. Cuts of meat (and their names) vary greatly from one country to another.
59 mins
Thanks, Jenny, yes I agree it should be "best end of neck of lamb", rather than best end of lamb neck - I changed it in my notes earlier.
agree Anne C : agree with Jenny
2 hrs
neutral John ANTHONY : Best end = carré. It is nowhere near the neck...
3 hrs
I didn't say "best end" but "best end of neck" which, is a well known joint in the UK and, amazingly enough, comes from one end of the neck
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3 hrs

Neck fillet

That's what it is called in the UK. I use it a lot, especially when cooking tajines...
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Reference comments

4 hrs
Reference:

Neck fillet vs middle neck vs best end

According to this rather interesting video, the 'neck fillet' suggested by John is in fact a sub-cut from the 'middle neck' — and the distinction is also clearly made between this cut and the 'best end fillet'

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-11-03 15:54:54 GMT)
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And maybe this is also of interest: 'French-trimmed middle neck of lamb'

http://www.caterersearch.com/Articles/2008/06/12/321460/vide...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-11-03 16:01:59 GMT)
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And here is a PDF file that explains the cuts of lamb in a slightly different way:

http://www.caterersearch.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=177...
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