Oct 13, 2009 14:32
15 yrs ago
French term
vérifier l'absence de dentelé
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Electronics / Elect Eng
Optronics
Dentelé is apparently a defect affecting the image displayed on the monitor of night vision goggles in IR mode.
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Proposed translations
(English)
2 | geometric distortion | Lianne Wilson |
2 | striated/ serrated | chris collister |
1 | check there is no cogging | Tony M |
1 | verify absence of mouse teeth (distortion) | rkillings |
Proposed translations
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geometric distortion
Okay, this is a bit of an educated guess here, but from what I've seen dentelé probably refers to a problem caused by image intensifiers distorting the picture, making the edges indented (dentelé). This is called 'gemotetrc distortion' and is a common defect.
"Geometric distortion is inherent in all Gen 0 and Gen I image intensifiers and in some Gen II image intensifiers that use electrostatic rather than fiber-optic inversion of the image."
There is a picture in the second link.
"Geometric distortion is inherent in all Gen 0 and Gen I image intensifiers and in some Gen II image intensifiers that use electrostatic rather than fiber-optic inversion of the image."
There is a picture in the second link.
Note from asker:
Thank you Lianne for your time. I bookmarked the first link, quite interesting. See note to Tony. Cheers |
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Comment: "My client gave me another document to translate from EN to FR, where they use "indented". Of course, the English is of French origin, so I have no guarantee, but you were closest ..."
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striated/ serrated
I'm no expert in night vision goggles, but "dentelé" can apply to the edges of certain kinds of leaf (elm), but also to muscles, where it is referred to as striated or striped. I would imagine that it is this which is referred to here. More prosaically, "lines".
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check there is no cogging
REALLY low confidence on this one! But just possibly...
There is a scanning defect that was common in the olden days of CRT TVs, but almost completely extinct in later designs, and irrelevant with more recent display technology, in which groups of lines were displaced horizontally on a more or less regular basis, so that a vertical line looked as if it was 'crenellated' — hence preumably the idea of its looking like the teeth on a cog.
Now I don't know what technology your particualr system is using, but I know that earlier night vision systems did indeed use photomultiplier tubes, which I assume involve some kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic scanning — and as soon as scanning is involved, cogging could conceivably occur.
As I say, just a long shot in the dark!
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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-10-13 17:22:02 GMT)
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W-e-l-l — aliasing is certainly an image defect that could apply in this context; however, I have some reservations as to whether or not this FR term would be used to translate it (AFAIK, it isn't the word normally used); also, we don't usually fuss too much about niceties like aliasing in purely practical applications like military night vision, it's more relevant o high-quality TV dsipalys, computer graphics etc.
So I'm afraid I remain rather doubtful about that one...
There is a scanning defect that was common in the olden days of CRT TVs, but almost completely extinct in later designs, and irrelevant with more recent display technology, in which groups of lines were displaced horizontally on a more or less regular basis, so that a vertical line looked as if it was 'crenellated' — hence preumably the idea of its looking like the teeth on a cog.
Now I don't know what technology your particualr system is using, but I know that earlier night vision systems did indeed use photomultiplier tubes, which I assume involve some kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic scanning — and as soon as scanning is involved, cogging could conceivably occur.
As I say, just a long shot in the dark!
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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-10-13 17:22:02 GMT)
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W-e-l-l — aliasing is certainly an image defect that could apply in this context; however, I have some reservations as to whether or not this FR term would be used to translate it (AFAIK, it isn't the word normally used); also, we don't usually fuss too much about niceties like aliasing in purely practical applications like military night vision, it's more relevant o high-quality TV dsipalys, computer graphics etc.
So I'm afraid I remain rather doubtful about that one...
Note from asker:
Thank you Tony. Actually your "crenelated" suggestion put me on what I think is the right track. I checked "crénelage" and found "aliasing" which seems to do the job (Unwanted visual effect caused by insufficient sampling resolution or inadequate filtering to completely define the display image, most commonly seen as jagged or stepped edge along the boundary of the object, or along a line) What say? |
In an EN to FR document, the same client uses "indented", but as the English is obviously of French origin, I have no way to be sure ... Thanks again anyway |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Lianne Wilson
: I'm not so sure about 'aliasing' myself, either. Awkward one, this.
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verify absence of mouse teeth (distortion)
The technology might not involved interlacing, but the description certainly sounds the same. Also called herringbone distortion.
See photo in link.
See photo in link.
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