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Feb 20, 2013 03:59
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French term

Valeur du Préambule

French to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
From a contract concerning mining:

PARTIE I REGIME GENERAL DE LA CONCESSION

1. VALEUR DU PREAMBULE ET DES ANNEXES

2. ENTREE EN VIGUEUR ET CONDITIONS SUSPENSIVES

3. DÉFINITIONS ET INTERPRÉTATIONS

Sorry, there's not much context, as the file was split, and unfortunatley I don't have the corresponding text.

I'm not sure, but could they perhaps be talking about "legal value" here"?
Proposed translations (English)
3 Value of the Preamble

Discussion

jeantrans (X) (asker) Mar 2, 2013:
Nikki, I appreciate your comments. I decided to put "legal value", and made a note to the PM recommedning that they check with the client, since it was just too vague without more clarificaiton. Thanks to everyone.
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Feb 20, 2013:
Web search What searches have you done on the internet thus far? Google gives hits for "object and value of the preamble".
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Feb 20, 2013:
Dear Jeantrans,

Athere are real problems with context here, as the translator you are lacking the complete text yourself, I think you cannot really do much more than stay "safe" on this one. It may mean legal value, it may not. If you have no idea of what can be read into the meaning of the term, then we stand next to no chance of being able to imply meaning other than what you have on face value.

When you say the file has been "split", do you mean between you and another translator? If so, then I think you could ask the client to provide the whole text in order for you to have the complete context.

Proposed translations

4 hrs

Value of the Preamble

"...] du préambule, sans qu'il soit besoin ici d'entrer dans le débat sur la valeur du préambule d'un texte juridique119 . La notion reçoit une formule plus ferme dans [...]"

[...] preambular level, although there is no need here to join the debate on the value of the preamble to a legal instrument.119 The concept is formulated more robustly in the [...]

http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/search?source=auto&qu...
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : does that actually mean anything in everyday English?
3 hrs
:)) I have never heard it in everyday English.it seems to just mean the value, worth of a certain text, here, the preamble, the texts I have quoted are originally from a UN website
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : In the circumstances, see my discussion post, no other option here.
5 hrs
yes, I think it's best to keep it literal
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