Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dec 13, 2021 15:15
2 yrs ago
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French term
sexisé
French to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
gender studies
I'm translating an article about sexual harassment in nightlife environments. The context sentence is this:
Lorsque l’on sait que seulement 10% des victimes portent plainte et que la méconnaissance de ces sujets est majeure, on peut affirmer qu’il est primordial d’avoir une lecture féministe de la situation en se fiant plutôt au nombre de témoignages et aux ressentis des publics sexisés.
[Utilisation du terme personnes “sexisé·es” en référence à Juliet Drouar, qui l’utilise pour parler des rapports de force, pouvoir et domination sans invisibiliser tous les autres groupes victimes de sexisme (personnes trans, bi, queer, intersexe, lgbtqia+), les femmes n’étant qu’un groupe parmi d’autres.].
I gather this is a recent coinage and wonder if there's an equivalent in use in English at the moment to encompass all victims of sexism in this way.
Thanks for your help!
Lorsque l’on sait que seulement 10% des victimes portent plainte et que la méconnaissance de ces sujets est majeure, on peut affirmer qu’il est primordial d’avoir une lecture féministe de la situation en se fiant plutôt au nombre de témoignages et aux ressentis des publics sexisés.
[Utilisation du terme personnes “sexisé·es” en référence à Juliet Drouar, qui l’utilise pour parler des rapports de force, pouvoir et domination sans invisibiliser tous les autres groupes victimes de sexisme (personnes trans, bi, queer, intersexe, lgbtqia+), les femmes n’étant qu’un groupe parmi d’autres.].
I gather this is a recent coinage and wonder if there's an equivalent in use in English at the moment to encompass all victims of sexism in this way.
Thanks for your help!
Proposed translations
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3 +3 | sexualized |
Bourth
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4 +1 | sexised |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
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4 -1 | gender-aware |
Jennifer Levey
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5 -2 | sexized |
MassimoA
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3 -1 | genderized |
Lisa Rosengard
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Proposed translations
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sexualized
to contribute towards the prevention of SEXUALIZED HARASSMENT, gender discrimination and sexualized violence
https://www.mpg.de/11961177/policy-against-sexualized-discri...
SEXUALIZED VIOLENCE is an all-encompassing term that includes sexual assault, sexual abuse and sexual harassment.
https://ssaic.ca/learning-resources/sexualized-violence-101-...
Women of color experience both racialized and SEXUALIZED HARASSMENT and assault,
https://www.catalyst.org/2018/02/13/sexual-harassment-and-wo...
Students' experiences of unwanted SEXUALIZED BEHAVIOURS and sexual assault at postsecondary schools in the Canadian provinces, 2019
https://www.proquest.com/openview/7bc25f05cb9fd5116851d3089e...
There are many more examples of the word on Canadian sites above all.
So far I've found nothing about women being plain 'sexualized', so maybe you need to speak of 'women subject to sexualized BEHAVIOUR' (last example above).
This would cover just about everybody and everything I should think, from mimicking the way a person walks or talks, peering down cleavages, wolfwhistles, etc.
https://www.mpg.de/11961177/policy-against-sexualized-discri...
SEXUALIZED VIOLENCE is an all-encompassing term that includes sexual assault, sexual abuse and sexual harassment.
https://ssaic.ca/learning-resources/sexualized-violence-101-...
Women of color experience both racialized and SEXUALIZED HARASSMENT and assault,
https://www.catalyst.org/2018/02/13/sexual-harassment-and-wo...
Students' experiences of unwanted SEXUALIZED BEHAVIOURS and sexual assault at postsecondary schools in the Canadian provinces, 2019
https://www.proquest.com/openview/7bc25f05cb9fd5116851d3089e...
There are many more examples of the word on Canadian sites above all.
So far I've found nothing about women being plain 'sexualized', so maybe you need to speak of 'women subject to sexualized BEHAVIOUR' (last example above).
This would cover just about everybody and everything I should think, from mimicking the way a person walks or talks, peering down cleavages, wolfwhistles, etc.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Adrian MM.
: www.terrafemina.com/article/culture-pourquoi-sortir-de-l-heterosexualite-est-une-revolution-feministe_a360465/1
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agree |
Anastasia Kalantzi
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexualization
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agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, although I'm going with 'gender and sexual minorities' for the sake of clarity, your links have been very useful."
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10 mins
sexised
https://www-terrafemina-com.translate.goog/article/culture-p...
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Note added at 16 mins (2021-12-13 15:32:15 GMT)
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The term "sexised", as it pertains to French feminism, appears here: Sex in Question: French Materialist Feminism - caring labor ...
https://caringlabor.files.wordpress.com › 2012/09
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by L Adkins — dominated or appropriated ('racised', 'sexised') has 'benefited' from the development of the natural sciences, so for the last 50 years the attainments of . ..
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Note added at 16 mins (2021-12-13 15:32:15 GMT)
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The term "sexised", as it pertains to French feminism, appears here: Sex in Question: French Materialist Feminism - caring labor ...
https://caringlabor.files.wordpress.com › 2012/09
by L Adkins — dominated or appropriated ('racised', 'sexised') has 'benefited' from the development of the natural sciences, so for the last 50 years the attainments of . ..
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Diana Huet de Guerville
: The link you provided is clearly translated from the French and doesn't read very well, so I wouldn't use this as a reference. Doesn't sound right to me at all! Since it's a new term in French, not sure there is an equivalent in English.// See discussion
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I provided TWO links... Did you not see the second, written by an Anglo, I assume, since the last name seems to be Anglo?
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Jennifer Levey
: The way in which sexised is shown between single quotes on p. 94 of the book rather suggests it is the authors personal attempts to find an equivalent to sexisé, rather than it being accepted terminology.
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But how can it be "accepted terminology" at this point, if it is such a new term?
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SafeTex
: Similarity here between French and English plus that we already have "racised" in English. The two "neutrals" above are on pretty shaky grounds too.
6 hrs
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Thanks, SafeTex.
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1 hr
gender-aware
In many areas of life, including the area of sexual harassment, we find confusion between 'sex' and 'gender'. And in a few contexts - and I suggest it is the case here - 'sex' and 'gender' can be interchanged without undermining the argument.
https://eige.europa.eu/thesaurus/terms/1147
Gender awareness
Ability to view society from the perspective of gender roles and understand how this has affected women’s needs in comparison to the needs of men.
To which I would add that 'women's needs' covers not just natural-born cis-women but also the other groups mentioned in Asker's note about Juliet Drouar's use of 'sexisé'.
ressentis des publics sexisés
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feelings/experiences of a gender-aware public
https://eige.europa.eu/thesaurus/terms/1147
Gender awareness
Ability to view society from the perspective of gender roles and understand how this has affected women’s needs in comparison to the needs of men.
To which I would add that 'women's needs' covers not just natural-born cis-women but also the other groups mentioned in Asker's note about Juliet Drouar's use of 'sexisé'.
ressentis des publics sexisés
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feelings/experiences of a gender-aware public
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
philgoddard
: No, it means people on the receiving end of sexism and harassment.
33 mins
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No, that's certainly not what 'sexisé' means.
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SafeTex
: I have given an agree to another answer so I wont disagree here but I think Phil is right. Everything points towrds "receiving end" in this context and "gender-aware" is therefore way off target
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3 hrs
genderized
The verb 'sexiser es' can be either 'sexualize' (to 'sex-endow' or 'attribute with sex' or 'to alter', 'to change' or 'to modify').
It also means 'genderize' which is to make gender-based distinctions within or among, or to make distinctions in a group according to gender.
(on--line English dictionary)
From the information provided in the question:
'It began with a statistical fact that only 10% of victims complain, which allows a gross lack of understanding and knowledge in the wake of the issue. Feminist literature is important as it resounds with evidence from personal experience.
A reference to the author, Juliet Drouar, used the term 'sexualize' or 'genderize' with respect to gender issues and disparities in forceful relationships based on power and dominance, while women form only one of the groups among others who are victims of power and domination.'
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Note added at 7 hrs (2021-12-13 23:13:02 GMT)
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Au début il y a le fait des chiffres qu'il n'y a qu'un dix pour cent des plaintes des tous victimes, ce dont il nous reste une manque de la compréhenson et la connaissance en face du thème. La lecture féministe est important avec des témoignages résonnants des expériences personnelles, aux ressentis des publics sexisés.
Une reférence à l'auteur emploie le verbe 'sexiser' à l'égard des questions des genres et les disparités dedans les relation forcées en base des pouvoirs et de la dominance, tandis que les femmes sont seulement un des groupes parmi des autres qui sont victimens du pouvoir et de la dominance.
Le verbe 'sexiser' peut vouloir dire 'doter ou attribuer du sexe' ou bien ça veut dire 'changer' ou 'modifier'. Aussi, face aux genres des sexes masculins et fémenins, c'est de faire distinguer entre les genres, dedans ou parmi un groupe selon son genre ou classification.
It also means 'genderize' which is to make gender-based distinctions within or among, or to make distinctions in a group according to gender.
(on--line English dictionary)
From the information provided in the question:
'It began with a statistical fact that only 10% of victims complain, which allows a gross lack of understanding and knowledge in the wake of the issue. Feminist literature is important as it resounds with evidence from personal experience.
A reference to the author, Juliet Drouar, used the term 'sexualize' or 'genderize' with respect to gender issues and disparities in forceful relationships based on power and dominance, while women form only one of the groups among others who are victims of power and domination.'
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Note added at 7 hrs (2021-12-13 23:13:02 GMT)
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Au début il y a le fait des chiffres qu'il n'y a qu'un dix pour cent des plaintes des tous victimes, ce dont il nous reste une manque de la compréhenson et la connaissance en face du thème. La lecture féministe est important avec des témoignages résonnants des expériences personnelles, aux ressentis des publics sexisés.
Une reférence à l'auteur emploie le verbe 'sexiser' à l'égard des questions des genres et les disparités dedans les relation forcées en base des pouvoirs et de la dominance, tandis que les femmes sont seulement un des groupes parmi des autres qui sont victimens du pouvoir et de la dominance.
Le verbe 'sexiser' peut vouloir dire 'doter ou attribuer du sexe' ou bien ça veut dire 'changer' ou 'modifier'. Aussi, face aux genres des sexes masculins et fémenins, c'est de faire distinguer entre les genres, dedans ou parmi un groupe selon son genre ou classification.
Example sentence:
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/sexualise
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/genderize
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Libby Cohen
: I feel we're getting off-base here. The sentence is about the experiences of people who've been sexually harassed, however one identifies or is indentified by others.
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20 hrs
sexized
This is the correct translation, with z (sexized) and not with s (sexised).
Discussion
see https://www.juliaserano.com/terminology.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_minority#:~:text=A sexu...
So, this would mean that those who are 'sexisé.e.s' are those who are oppressed and/or exploited by the cisheteropatriarchy - "A system of power based on the supremacy and dominance of cisgender heterosexual men through the exploitation and oppression of womxn and the LGBTQIA+ community. This includes oppressive discrimination such as queerphobia (homophobia, transphobia, biphobia, binarism, etc.)." (see 2nd link)
As 'sexisé.e.s' seems to have been very recently coined and used by Colette Guillaumin and Juliet Drouar, and doesn't seem to have an established English equivalent yet, could you leave the term as 'sexisé.e.s' with a note ?
https://www.gangofwitches.com/podcast/episode-9/
http://www.sun.ac.za/english/management/wim-de-villiers/Docu...
Since Drouar uses the term very explicitly (following on from Guillaumin), it might be worth keeping the term in French and explaining it, or using the various options to work around it (depending on the target audience of the translation, I think that makes a difference!).
I agree with avoiding the word victims, though Drouar's intent is to focus on and include all those who experience sexism (as opposed to just women): "nous pourrions par exemple proposer pour les personnes concernées par le sexisme, donc par la domination des hommes cis hétéro, d’employer le terme de : personnes sexisé.e.s. Un terme qui lève le voile sur les processus de construction sociale de la différence des sexes (-isé.e) à la racine du sexisme et qui permet de ne pas invisibiliser les personnes LGBTQI."
@Jennifer - Sorry, I hadn't read your comment before I posted this.
Could sexisés be taken as "gendered public? Especially as it seems there is talk of "personnes trans, bi, queer, intersexe, lgbtqia+" as well as women?
And would this fit in to the translation?
You could either keep the original word in French, explaining that it's a new term and define it as those who face sexism or gendered oppression. Or work around it by replacing the term with some version of "those who face/experience sexism" or "people who experience gender oppression". I'll try to do a bit more research later out of curiosity, and I'm following the thread to see what other ideas emerge!