Mar 18, 2013 08:57
11 yrs ago
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German term
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Entsprechend einer Einschätzung
German to English
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Dem Gremium gehört eine nach seiner Einschätzung angemessene Anzahl unabhängiger Mitglieder an, da mehr als die Hälfte der Aufsichtsratsmitglieder in keiner geschäftlichen oder persönlichen Beziehung zur Gesellschaft, deren Organen, einem kontrollierenden Aktionär oder einem mit diesem verbundenen Unternehmen steht.
Entsprechend einer Einschätzung der Europäischen Kommission wird dabei von der Unabhängigkeit der Arbeitnehmervertreter im Aufsichtsrat ausgegangen.
Part of a company's Corporate Governance Declaration. I have no problem translating the second sentence but I can't understand how "According to a European Commission assessment" fits with "the employee representatives on the Supervisory Board are assumed to be independent." Or does "Einschätzung" have a different meaning here?
Entsprechend einer Einschätzung der Europäischen Kommission wird dabei von der Unabhängigkeit der Arbeitnehmervertreter im Aufsichtsrat ausgegangen.
Part of a company's Corporate Governance Declaration. I have no problem translating the second sentence but I can't understand how "According to a European Commission assessment" fits with "the employee representatives on the Supervisory Board are assumed to be independent." Or does "Einschätzung" have a different meaning here?
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
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English
Specializes in field
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
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In line with the EU position
"In line with the EU position, labor leaders on the supervisory board are presumed to be independent."
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In my opinion, the language "presumed to be independent" is completely in line with the German wording and English usage (possible alternatives "considered/deemed independent"):
"A Director will be presumed to be independent for purposes of membership on the Board of Directors and its Committees if the Director.."
http://www.spx.com/en/investor-relations/corporate-governanc...
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In my opinion, the language "presumed to be independent" is completely in line with the German wording and English usage (possible alternatives "considered/deemed independent"):
"A Director will be presumed to be independent for purposes of membership on the Board of Directors and its Committees if the Director.."
http://www.spx.com/en/investor-relations/corporate-governanc...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions and links. Because I have to get the European Commission in there somehow and can't imply that it went to the trouble of assessing this relatively small company's supervisory board, I think I will go for Michael's "In line with"+"presumed" and ViBe's suggested translation of "recommendation" for Einschaetzung."
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Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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88
according to his assessment / evaluation
I´d say
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wenn es die Europäische Kommission ist, warum steht dann im Text "seine" ?
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wenn es die Europäische Kommission ist, warum steht dann im Text "seine" ?
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conny
: warum his?
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es müsste natürlich its heißen. da ins Englische zu übersetzen ist. wird
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based on its assessment
Pretty sure the committee does not have a physiological appendage indicating its maleness.
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conny
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philgoddard
: It's the EU, not the supervisory board.
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Based on an (EU) assessment
My shot is
"Based on a European Commission assessment, it is assumed that the staff representatives on the works council are independent".
"Dabei" - forget it, it's superfluous.
"Based on a European Commission assessment, it is assumed that the staff representatives on the works council are independent".
"Dabei" - forget it, it's superfluous.
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Simon Döbler (X)
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what it considers to be an appropriate number of independent members
Am I missing something? It seems obvious to be that the only thing that is being eingeschätzt is the "angemessene Anzahl" - they choose to have however many (independent) members they consider appropriate. It is nothing at all to do with assessing whether or not those members are independent - that is taken as read.
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typo - "obvious to me" of course.
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typo - "obvious to me" of course.
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ViBe
: I see TWO different Einschätzungen here: (1) Gremium’s (d.h. Aufsichtsrat’s) re. the “Anzahl“ => hence “seine” and (2) EU’s re. the degree of independence of its members. This is what your option seems to be failing to convey.
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Reference comments
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ViBe
Works in field
Reference:
Recommendation 2005/162/EC [Annex II, 1.(b)]?
“Eine (indef. art.) Einschätzung” may imply a certain provision in a certain directive / expert opinion / guideline of the EC. So, I’d go with something like: “As per the European Commission / As recommended but the European Commission / According to the European Commission’s guidelines, the employee representatives on the Supervisory Board are assumed to be independent…”
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Sorry for the typo: "As recommended BY ..."
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As we don’t know the exact source of law to which the reference is made, we can get around it by simply saying “As recommended but the European Commission…”
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Sorry for the typo: "As recommended BY ..."
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As we don’t know the exact source of law to which the reference is made, we can get around it by simply saying “As recommended but the European Commission…”
Example sentence:
In Recommendation 2005/162/EC [Annex II, 1.(b)] the European Commission concluded that employee representatives under certain criteria can be identified as being independent…
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conny
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Thanks, conny.
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philgoddard
: I think yours is the best explanation so far - you should have put it as an answer. It means "according to the EU's definition".
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Thank you, philgoddard. I'll think about it.
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