Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen

English translation:

several successful breeding attempts

Added to glossary by Cetacea
May 2, 2006 14:38
18 yrs ago
German term

Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen

German to English Science Livestock / Animal Husbandry Exotic Birds
From a book on exotic birds, in information about nesting and reproduction. I believe the sense is that the birds have succeeded in nesting repeatedly. Here's specific quote: 2 Eier, Brutdauer 14-15 Tage. Brut bereits mehrfach (or vereinzelt) gelungen.
Please help with appropriate English rendering.
Thank you!
Change log

May 2, 2006 22:12: Marcus Malabad changed "Term asked" from "Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen." to "Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen"

Discussion

Eric Bye (asker) May 7, 2006:
Brut thanks Thanks for the good suggestions on rendering this sentence in English. This makes sense and fits the style of the entries in the book: concise sentence fragments.

Proposed translations

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German term (edited): Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.
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several successful breeding attempts

This is how both breeders and conservationists phrase it. Believe me, I've been active in both areas for over twenty years now...


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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-05-02 18:34:49 GMT)
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Just two references to demonstrate what I mean when I say that it is the type of publication that decides on the appropriate translation:

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:1HDjXpYGwREJ:www.wfu.edu...|lang_fr|lang_de
http://www.sgisland.org/pages/environ/b_albatross.htm
Peer comment(s):

disagree Nicole Schnell : Sorry. Breeding attempt includes mating. No such thing mentioned in the question.//We are breeding canaries and know about the works.
19 mins
And you think anything will hatch without mating? "The German term "Brut" includes the works. Check out the corresponding literature.
neutral Teresa Reinhardt : Why "attempts"??? They have been bred successfully...said exactly the same // You might want to check my links under my answer to see what 'they' say
1 hr
I know, Theresa, but that's how they phrase it. Don't blame me! ;-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
5 mins
German term (edited): Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.

hatching has been successful several times already

I think hatching works best for Brut in this case.
Peer comment(s):

agree Teresa Reinhardt : how 'bout "they have hatched successfully" ? // was just a suggestion, more aimed at Asker; let's leave some work...
1 min
My sentence is pretty awkward. I'd need to play around with it.
disagree Cetacea : The birds can hatch, but still not make it to healthy juveniles. For a "Brut" to be considered successful, the young birds need to have left the nest in good health. / Beautiful choice. We're breeding parrots and parakeets.
26 mins
I see your point. I used to raise chickens. My favorites were the Lakenvelders.
agree Lancashireman : Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 138 from www.proz.com for "Believe me..." + "I am a...". See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
7 hrs
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-1
17 mins
German term (edited): Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.

multiple (or sporadic) successful hatching

My take here.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Cetacea : The birds can hatch, but still not make it to healthy juveniles. For a "Brut" to be considered successful, the young birds need to have left the nest in good health. / No interpretation, just expertise.
14 mins
Little context, lots of interpretation.
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5 mins
German term (edited): Brut bereits mehrfach gelungen.

they have already bred successfully

or 'been bred' if the humans want to take credit

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-05-02 17:32:11 GMT)
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Here are some links from native English sites to confirm that this is neither "low-brow" nor unusual:
www.funnyfarmexotics.com/PALM/chapter2.htm:
"Palm cockatoos have been housed and bred successfully in enclosures with..."

species.fws.gov/species_accounts/bio_cond.html: "The Andean condor, a closely related species that inhabits areas in South America, had bred successfully in captivity..."

www.birdcare.com/bin/shownews/205:
"The last time that bitterns are thought to have bred successfully at..."
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cetacea : Depends on the audience the book is aimed at. If it's not too "high-brow", your solution works just as well. / It's not breeding animals I'm refering to, but the style of the book in question.
30 mins
There is nothing low-brow about breeding animals
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