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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Unterzuckerungs-Tagebuch ( "lay"term sought)

English translation:

Hypo Logbook

Added to glossary by Lirka
Jul 26, 2009 19:03
14 yrs ago
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German term

Unterzuckerungs-Tagebuch ( "lay"term sought)

German to English Medical Medical (general)
Of course, I know what Unterzuskerung means (hypoglycemia), but I am looking for a corresponding term for laymen--for patients without any medical knowledge.

Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
5 Hypo Log Book/Hypo Diary
2 +7 low blood sugar diary
4 +1 diabetes log book or diabetic's log book
4 too low a blood sugar (or blood glucose) level OR hypoglycaemia
3 blood sugar chart/blood sugar diary
3 "lows" diary
Change log

Jul 28, 2009 18:51: Lirka Created KOG entry

Discussion

Stephen Gobin Jul 27, 2009:
Unterzuckerung is just a synonym for Hypoklykämie. A lay German would say things like "bist du unterzuckert?" and the English would simply be "are you hypo?"
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
@SJDL That's why I agree with your answer provided after you received the extra info :-).
As for the space for notes and remarks, yes, they are there indeed, but they are mostly used for additional info like: what did I do when my blood sugar value was too low/high, how much medication did I take, etc. in order to see, in which situations hypo- or hyperglycemia occurs. But if this is a trial on symptoms, maybe they don't (only) want to learn about when/why hypoglycemia occurs, but mainly about how patients feel, when their blood sugar value is too low, because different patients may have very different symptoms.
Lirka (asker) Jul 27, 2009:
Exactly, I was asking Andrea about the use of these booklets, I wasn't inquiring about the spelling :) Although I am an MD, I've never closely worked with diabetic patients, and I am sure that they know certain aspects of this disease ( esp. the symptoms) better than I do.
SJLD Jul 27, 2009:
I agree that hypoglycemia must be specified in this case. My original answer (diabetes log book) was entered before any info on the context (clinical trial, hypo symptoms) was available. However, you are wrong in stating that a diabetes logbook does not include info on symptoms. All those I have seen (in English) have a space for "notes" or "remarks" for this very purpose.
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
@lirka I am a German diabetic :-), so I am not qualified to decide which term is better. What I can say is that a blood sugar or a diabetes diary/logbook is something used for recording blood sugar values (and sometimes the amount of medication used), but not for entering symptoms. So whether you take diary or logbook, you need to qualify it with terms like *low* blood sugar or *hypoglycemia*.
You are right, SJDL, I can't make that decision, but I can offer my experience concerning the use of diaries/logbooks.
SJLD Jul 27, 2009:
I'm really surprised a native English speaker would need to ask such a question of a native German speaker, unless she has been treated in English.
Lirka (asker) Jul 27, 2009:
@Andrea-- since you are a diabetic, I do think that you are specifically qualified to offer your perspective. I am looking for a term that PATIENTS use. Thus a further question to you: according to your experience, would you record symptoms of hypoglycemia in a "diary" or rather a "logbook" ( or it does not really matter)?
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
@MargaShaw Yes, these terms are indeed generally understood, and IMO that is exactly why they don't work. This special hypoglycaemia diary is only intended for recording the symptoms of hypoglycaemia, and I as a patient use and know blood sugar/diabetes diaries for recording (all) actual blood sugar values.
Marga Shaw Jul 27, 2009:
@Andrea Why do you try to underestimate the intelligence of the average patient? Blood sugar level, blood glucose level, diabetes, chart, diary or log etc. are surely terms which are generally understood, especially by diabetics.
SJLD Jul 27, 2009:
over to you then I'm out
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
@SJLD I didn't mean to cause offence :-), I just don't think lirka is looking for an established term here. And believe me, I know the terminology as well, I have been a diabetic for over 20 years now :-).
SJLD Jul 27, 2009:
UK patient info For Type 2 diabetics - hypoglycemia and hypos ARE everyday terms for diabetics.<br>http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Diabetes-Type-2.htm
SJLD Jul 27, 2009:
@Andrea I'm a medical doctor and epidemiologist as well as a translator. I really don't think I need to be diabetic and take part in a study to know the terminology.
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
@SJLD and MargaShaw Have you ever taken part in such a study :-)?
If I understood correctly, this term is not supposed to be used in everyday life, but in a clinical trial about hypoglycaemia and it's symtoms. If it was to be used in the everyday life of diabetes patients you would be right, of course!
Marga Shaw Jul 27, 2009:
With SJLD So far I also had neither heard of nor read about "low" blood sugar diaries or charts. It also would not make sense as blood sugar levels tend to fluctuate, depending on various factors.
Andrea Flaßbeck (X) Jul 27, 2009:
In German, there are no Unterzuckerungs-Tagebücher either. This term is obviously only intended to be used in a study with (mostly elderly) Diabetes II patients. And I don't think those ones call hypoglycaemia a hypo :-), nor hypoglycaemia (at least not in German), they would say Unterzucker. So to me, low blood sugar diary, low blood sugar symptoms diary or something along these lines seems to be what lirka is looking for.
SJLD Jul 26, 2009:
why ask the question then? if you must translate literally. Although I've never heard of a "low blood sugar diary" and it doesn't sound like idiomatic English to me. English-speaking diabetics (and their doctors) call hypoglycemic attacks "hypos". And as I understand it the patients are recording their symptoms, not their blood sugar readings.
Lirka (asker) Jul 26, 2009:
Perhaps another bit of info This translation is a back translation. The original DE term is Unterzuckerung, not Hypoglykemie... thus my hassle with the term. I think I should stay as close to the original as possible because of the specific purpose of this translation.
Lirka (asker) Jul 26, 2009:
yes, they are. type 2
SJLD Jul 26, 2009:
and are the patients diabetics? ?

Proposed translations

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Hypo Log Book/Hypo Diary

As a T1 diabetic of 30 years duration, I know the language used by diabetics (of all types) and their diabetologists and specialist nurses.

"Hypo" is used all the time. Low blood sugar/low blood glucose is also used, but in everyday parlance, why use three words one a good four-lettered word will do.

Reference:

http://www.tudiabetes.com

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Stephen. I like you suggestion very much."
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low blood sugar diary

Or maybe "blood sugar level diary"?

Well, I can't imagine a more laymen formulation than this.
Peer comment(s):
agree RogerGerEng (X)
1 hr
agree Andrea Flaßbeck (X) : If the patients have to record their hypoglycemic symptoms, *low* needs to be part of the solution.
2 hrs
agree Trudy Peters
2 hrs
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator) : Yes, if literal translation is required!
10 hrs
agree Anne-Marie Grant (X) : Am convinced now after all the discussion!
13 hrs
agree Julia Lipeles
16 hrs
agree jccantrell : What my wife, the MD, calls it.
18 hrs
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blood sugar chart/blood sugar diary


also: blood glucose chart/blood glucose diary

... comes to mind.

e.g.:
30 Nov 2007 ... One of the ways to keep tract of how your body reacts is through using a blood sugar chart so that you will know how your body fluctuates ...
www.bloodsugarreport.com/...blood-sugar.../the-blood-sugar-...

Diabetes Blood Sugar Chart:It Helps To Know Your Blood Sugar Numbers ... If you do not have a diabetes blood sugar chart, you can download one from many ...
www.bloodsugarremedies.com/diabetesbloodsugarchart.html

How to Chart Blood Sugar Levels. Keeping an accurate account of your blood sugar levels is a key ingredient to keeping your diabetes in check.
www.ehow.com/how_2314303_chart-blood-sugar-levels.html

Weekly Diabetes Blood Sugar Chart. **. Blood. Sugar ... Mark a dot in the square indicating the blood sugar value. For example, if your blood sugar was 182, ...
www.pamf.org/diabetes/bloodsugarflowsheet.pdf

Home blood sugar diary. You can complete the highlighted fields on this form online and then print the form for easy reference. Only text that is visible on ...
www.health.com/health/static/hw/media/pdf/hw/form_tb1867.pd...

When you keep a Blood Sugar Diary to track and monitor your blood sugar levels, you and your doctor will be able to make better decisions about your ...
www.levemir-us.com/resources-diary.asp


Peer comment(s):
neutral Andrea Flaßbeck (X) : Doesn't really fit, see lirka's comment above (the patients make diary entries of their hypoglycemic symptoms).//Sorry, I am diabetic, and to me, a blood sugar diary is the journal to write ALL blood sugar values and NO symptoms into.
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"Blood sugar diary" or "blood sugar chart" is generally understood by patients. Patients enter their blood sugar levels and any others symptoms etc. they may experience into these charts or diaries. This leaves the question of what does not fit?
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too low a blood sugar (or blood glucose) level OR hypoglycaemia

When blood glucose levels (also called blood sugar levels) drop too low, it's called hypoglycemia. Very low blood sugar levels can cause severe symptoms ...
kidshealth.org/parent/.../living/hypoglycemia.html

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Note added at 2 Stunden (2009-07-26 21:57:12 GMT)
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sorry, I forgot to add the word diary.

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Note added at 2 Stunden (2009-07-26 22:01:08 GMT)
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Bloodindex - My Blood Sugar Diary (Printouts and Charts) - Dashboard - ]Bloodindex provides Blood Sugar diary for you to Store your Blood Sugar ...
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16 mins

diabetes log book or diabetic's log book

Usually diabetics keep a log book or diary for noting blood glucose levels, insulin dose and any remarks. I've never heard of a special book for hypos, unless this is a special situation (clinical trial?).

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Note added at 18 mins (2009-07-26 19:21:38 GMT)
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This one is for the computer, but it gives you an idea.
http://www.nesfield.co.uk/diabeteslogbookx/

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-07-26 19:24:57 GMT)
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See also "blood sugar diary"
http://www.bloodindex.org/diabetes_my_diary_dashboard.php

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Note added at 43 mins (2009-07-26 19:46:49 GMT)
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Thanks - that information is essential and would have been nice to have before answering.
Do you think diabetics don't know what "hypoglycemia" is? I don't see any problems with "hypoglycemia log book".

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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-07-26 22:18:11 GMT)
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Hypoglycemia events should be recorded in a logbook and discussed with your health care provider. • Unexplained or severe hypoglycemia should be ...
www.bd.com/leaving/index2.asp?/20061 /resource.aspx?IDX...

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Note added at 11 hrs (2009-07-27 06:09:00 GMT)
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I would call it a hypoglycemia logbook or diary.

Hypoglycemia - Findings from A.B. King and co-authors broaden ...Insulin dosage was adjusted during 30-minute visits after review of self-monitored blood glucose records, adverse effects, and hypoglycemia diary. ...
www.newsrx.com/newsletters/.../20617200981FW.html - Cached - Similar
Food and Chemical Toxicology : Chronic consumption of rebaudioside ...In addition, subjects completed a hypoglycemia diary daily during the treatment ..... Because the hypoglycemia diary was maintained throughout the study and ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0278691508002275 - Similar
by KC Maki - 2008 - Cited by 1 - Related articles
Psychometric Properties of an Instrument for Assessing Treatment ...These data were recorded in electronic diaries (INVIVOSYSTEMS; Invivodata, Scotts Valley, CA), along with insulin doses and symptoms of hypoglycemia. Diary ...
tde.sagepub.com/cgi/content/full/35/1/136 - Similar
by RR Rubin - 2009 - Related articles - All 2 versions
Original Article minimal reduction IN insulin dosage with ...and hypoglycemia diary. Within 2 weeks of achieving a pramlintide dosage of 60 mcg/meal, .... effects, and the participant's hypoglycemia diary. Within 2 ...
aace.metapress.com/index/235210W120G78243.pdf - Similar
by AB King - 2009 - Related articles
Self-Management Competence as a Predictor of Outcomes of Intensive ...Parents maintained a Severe Hypoglycemia Diary to report the occurrence, management, and outcome of hypoglycemia that met any of these criteria: 1) ...
care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/26/7/2043 - Similar
by T Wysocki - 2003 - Cited by 25 - Related articles
Nemours - Biobehavioral Study18 Feb 2008 ... glucose meter, and hypoglycemia diary data directly to the coordinating center using home PCs that were provided for their use during ...
www.nemours.org/research/biomedical/.../biobehavioral.html
Note from asker:
Hi SJDL and thanks for your suggestion. I like log book, but I need a more specific first term than diabetes. It is indeed a clinical trial, and the patients make diary entries of their hypoglycemic symptoms.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Harald Moelzer (medical-translator) : Perfect for "Diabetes-Tagebuch" but 'Unterzuckerung' particularly refers to low blood sugar...
10 hrs
I realise that thanks - but I had no information about the context when I answered the question and we don't have "LOW blood sugar diaries" in English
agree Andrea Flaßbeck (X) : Let me assure you that we don't have Unterzuckerungs-Tagebücher in German either :-); I think *hypoglyc(a)emia logbook (or diary)* may work though; in any case, patients probably do receive instructions on how to use it.
13 hrs
thanks :-)
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"lows" diary

"Lows" and "hypos" both seem to be diabetes-speak for hypoglycemia.

However, I also don't see that much of a problem with using "hypoglycemia diary". First, if these are diabetics, they are not patients without any medical knowledge. Second, AFAIK the use of (not too specific) technical terms is more common in English than in German. And, third, unlike German there is no concise lay term for "hypoglycemia" in English. Thus it might be an option to use "hypoglycemia" and add a comment that a non-technical term was used in German, for which there is no exact equivalent in English.
Peer comment(s):
neutral SJLD : yes, I think Americans use "lows" for hypos.
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