Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

compuestos de amonio

English translation:

ammonium compounds

Sep 5, 2010 10:08
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Spanish term

amonio

Spanish to English Science Zoology aquaponics
Sus desechos orgánicos, compuestos de ***amonio*** (NH4), son tóxicos para los peces una vez que alcanzan cierta concentración en el agua. Es por ello que éstos se drenan y canalizan hacia biofiltros que contienen microorganismos
llamados bacterias nitrificantes, cuya función natural convierte el ***amonio*** en nitrato de amonio, un “abono mágico” para las plantas.

This is from a text on aquaponics. I'm not a chemist, so I'm a bit confused about the difference between 'ammonium' and 'ammonia' to be honest. From what I've read about aquaponics, the nitrifying bacteria convert the 'toxic ammonia from the fish effluent into nitrites and then nitrates'. All the texts I've seen mention 'ammonia', although they might be using the term wrongly - I don't know! However, the word 'amonio' is normally translated as 'ammonium', isn't it? So, how should it be translated here?

In the first case, 'compuestos de amonio' - I imagine they mean 'ammonium compounds' but it could also be seen as meaning 'made up of ammonium', couldn't it? And in the second, I imagine mean 'ammonia' is converted into ammonium nitrate? But maybe it should also be translated as 'ammonium'! I am very confused!

Many thanks in advance for any help with this! I know I should have studied chemistry at school!!


Sheila
Change log

Sep 10, 2010 08:39: Sheila Hardie changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/22228">Sheila Hardie's</a> old entry - "amonio"" to ""ammonium compounds (in this context)""

Sep 11, 2010 14:20: Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/22228">Sheila Hardie's</a> old entry - "compuestos de amonio"" to ""ammonium compounds ""

Discussion

Sheila Hardie (asker) Sep 5, 2010:
Thanks, Karen. So, how do you think it should be translated in my text? And should it be (NH4), (NH4+) or (NH3)??? Many thanks in advance! Sheila
Karen Tkaczyk Sep 5, 2010:
Ammonia is ammonium when in aqueous solution Hi. NH3 (ammonia) is a gas that when in water equilibrates with it. H2O + NH3 <--> NH4+ and HO-. Ammonium ions are oxidized into nitrites then nitrate.
Emma Goldsmith Sep 5, 2010:
I'm no expert either (I'm a nurse, not chemist) but I would agree with you that your text should refer to NH3 since that's the toxic one. Maybe you should wait until a chemist has a look in on this question, or check with your client?
Sheila Hardie (asker) Sep 5, 2010:
Thanks for the second link, Emma - it just confirms what I was wondering about above. In other words, should they say 'NH3' instead of NH4 or NH4+? Since it is the un-ionised NH3 that is toxic.

Sheila Hardie (asker) Sep 5, 2010:
I meant to say that I was going on what I read in this part of the article quoted by Emma:
"Ammonia is un-ionized, and has the formula NH3. Ammonium is ionized, and has the formula NH4+. The major factor that determines the proportion of ammonia or ammonium in water is water pH. The activity of ammonia also is influenced by temperature and ionic strength. This is important as the unionized NH3 is the form that can be toxic to aquatic organisms. The ionized NH4 is basically harmless to aquatic organisms."
Sheila Hardie (asker) Sep 5, 2010:
Many thanks for your answers! Emma, that's a very interesting article. However, I'm still a bit confused (sorry!). Would it not be clearer if they had said (NH3) instead of (NH4) here (and shouldn't it be (NH4+)? I mean - could you say 'ammonia in its un-ionised form (NH3)...' Because ammonium (NH4+) does not appear to be toxic to fish. Right? I hope I've understood the article correctly!

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ammonium compounds

Saludos
Peer comment(s):

agree Emma Goldsmith : Yes, ammonium is NH4
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Gracias Emma
agree Karen Tkaczyk
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Gracias Karen
agree John Speese : I agree, ammonium compounds, NH4 (ammonium) is an ion that forms compounds with other ions; ammonia (NH3) is itself a compund.
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Gracias John
agree Gabriella Bertelmann : agree
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Gracias Gabriella
agree Muriel Vasconcellos
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Gracias Muriel
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for all the answers and comments - they were of great help! Sheila"

Reference comments

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Reference:

ammonia versus ammonium

Ammonium is NH4 and ammonia is NH3.

Interesting article on why ammonium is not ammonia:
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/CropNews/2008/0421JohnSawye...

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Note added at 11 mins (2010-09-05 10:19:14 GMT)
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This may also help:
http://www.ornamentalfish.org/association/code/quality/ammon...
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