Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
ikinci büyük donanımlı ordu
English translation:
The second best equipped army
Added to glossary by
SeiTT
Apr 5, 2010 15:16
14 yrs ago
Turkish term
ikinci büyük donanımlı ordu
Turkish to English
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Greetings,
It's about a reason for the overthrow of the Shah of Iran suggested by some Iranians:
Dünyanın ikinci büyük donanımlı ordusuna sahip olmayı başaran Şah’ın gücüne petrol varlığı da eklenince diğer süper güçler için büyük bir tehlike oluşturmuş.
All the best, and many thanks,
Simon
It's about a reason for the overthrow of the Shah of Iran suggested by some Iranians:
Dünyanın ikinci büyük donanımlı ordusuna sahip olmayı başaran Şah’ın gücüne petrol varlığı da eklenince diğer süper güçler için büyük bir tehlike oluşturmuş.
All the best, and many thanks,
Simon
Proposed translations
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59 mins
Erkan Dogan
United States
United States
Native in Turkish
United States
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail...
Native in: Turkish
Works in: English to Turkish, Turkish to English
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The second best equipped army
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-04-05 16:17:36 GMT)
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"The American military has the best trained, most skilled, and best equipped military on earth". See http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Who_has_the_best_army_in_t...
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I think more clarification is necessary here. If "ikinci büyük" is emphasizing the army, then "the second largest" would be the right answer. Yet, if the "quality" (i.e. the equipment) has a precedence here in terms of the message to be given, then "the best equipped" would be the choice. However, there is another side of your question in my understanding: what the original sentence means is "dünyanın ikinci en büyük (ve en iyi donanımlı) ordusu" here. In other words, "the second largest and the best equipped military" is what was meant in my understanding. Shah Reza Pehlevi had the second largest and the best equipped "military" during his reign and right before he was overthrown, since he had access to the best American military arms and equipment (please note that Iran is the only country which was able to purchase F-14s fighter planes, let alone the other highly sophisticated military weaponry). He was still being considered the second after the American military in terms of size and equipment sophistication. Therefore, I believe emphasizing that the "Shah's military was the second largest and the best equipped" makes more sense.
Also as another note, even though I proposed my answer as "army", I believe it should be "military", because we usually refer to "military" when we say "army" in Turkish i.e. army, navy, air force and gendarme combined.
Sorry for writing so long…
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-04-05 16:17:36 GMT)
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"The American military has the best trained, most skilled, and best equipped military on earth". See http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:Who_has_the_best_army_in_t...
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-05 18:15:22 GMT)
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I think more clarification is necessary here. If "ikinci büyük" is emphasizing the army, then "the second largest" would be the right answer. Yet, if the "quality" (i.e. the equipment) has a precedence here in terms of the message to be given, then "the best equipped" would be the choice. However, there is another side of your question in my understanding: what the original sentence means is "dünyanın ikinci en büyük (ve en iyi donanımlı) ordusu" here. In other words, "the second largest and the best equipped military" is what was meant in my understanding. Shah Reza Pehlevi had the second largest and the best equipped "military" during his reign and right before he was overthrown, since he had access to the best American military arms and equipment (please note that Iran is the only country which was able to purchase F-14s fighter planes, let alone the other highly sophisticated military weaponry). He was still being considered the second after the American military in terms of size and equipment sophistication. Therefore, I believe emphasizing that the "Shah's military was the second largest and the best equipped" makes more sense.
Also as another note, even though I proposed my answer as "army", I believe it should be "military", because we usually refer to "military" when we say "army" in Turkish i.e. army, navy, air force and gendarme combined.
Sorry for writing so long…
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "many thanks excellent"
8 mins
ATIL KAYHAN
Türkiye
Türkiye
Native in Turkish
Türkiye
Think International from the Start!
Native in: Turkish 
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, Turkish, and 1 more.
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52
the second largest equipped army
the second largest equipped army
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8 mins
Salih C.Riz
Türkiye
Türkiye
Native in Turkish
Türkiye
High-quality technical translations
Native in: Turkish
Works in: English to Turkish, Turkish to English
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8
the second largest equipped army of the world
Just an idea!
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the second largest equipped army
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Note added at 30 mins (2010-04-05 15:46:54 GMT)
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the second largest equipped army
Peer comment(s):
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Tuğçem
14 hrs
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Tesekkur ederim
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Taylan Polatel
1 day 9 hrs
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Tesekkur ederim
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3 hrs
MutercimTR
Native in Turkish
Works in field
English to Turkish Experienced Reliable
Native in: Turkish
Works in: English to Turkish, Turkish to English, English
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8
The Second Best Accoutred/Accoutered Army
Accoutered is especially used for military means.
1 hr
Salih YILDIRIM
United States
United States
Native in Turkish
Works in field
United States
Meticulous, scrupulous, curious work!
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul ) 
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
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16
The second greater army equipped
I'd employ this phrase as a retired soldier.
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Note added at 2 gün16 saat (2010-04-08 07:27:44 GMT)
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DearTucker;
Since the word "Büyük"( Great or Large in English) is NOT given to read En Büyük (The Greatest or The Largest), it DOES ENTAİL usage of th exact word "GREATER or Larger". This is What I now for last 43 years hear so during my annual visits paid to both Uk and USA.
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Note added at 2 gün16 saat (2010-04-08 07:27:44 GMT)
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DearTucker;
Since the word "Büyük"( Great or Large in English) is NOT given to read En Büyük (The Greatest or The Largest), it DOES ENTAİL usage of th exact word "GREATER or Larger". This is What I now for last 43 years hear so during my annual visits paid to both Uk and USA.
Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
: (Not good English) // Second best-equipped army.
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Thanks, it could be Second Equipped Greater Army.
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