Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
docto y sabio
English translation:
scholars and wisemen
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tangotrans
Sep 6, 2006 16:56
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Spanish term
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docto y sabio
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Social Sciences
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Americas/Nicaragua/Masaya Volcano
I am looking for two nice words to put for these two: docto y sabios
Context:
Tomando todas las referencias y hechos anteriormente referidos, Torquemada (1615) dice “deshaciendo invenciones de gente simple y ruda y hablando para hombres doctos y sabios, digo que es muy fácil responder a todo lo dicho en especial a lo que toca al fuego de los volcanes, negando que sea el que arde en el infierno” dando seguidamente las razones de su afirmación diciendo “ como el infierno es la cárcel constituida por Dios para los condenados, por ello el fuego del infierno no debe dañar ni ofender sino solamente a aquellos que por su justo juicio son sentenciados a sus tormentos y pena.
Context:
Tomando todas las referencias y hechos anteriormente referidos, Torquemada (1615) dice “deshaciendo invenciones de gente simple y ruda y hablando para hombres doctos y sabios, digo que es muy fácil responder a todo lo dicho en especial a lo que toca al fuego de los volcanes, negando que sea el que arde en el infierno” dando seguidamente las razones de su afirmación diciendo “ como el infierno es la cárcel constituida por Dios para los condenados, por ello el fuego del infierno no debe dañar ni ofender sino solamente a aquellos que por su justo juicio son sentenciados a sus tormentos y pena.
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Marina Herrera
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1.2 million words translated in 2010
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scholars and wisemen
"scholars" es lo que se usa en inglés para doctos y es el mejor tributo que le pueden prestar a una persona letrada
Def. in dictionary.com
1. a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject.
Def. in dictionary.com
1. a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject.
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Sp-EnTranslator
: y sabio es eso, que tiene la sabiduría del conocimiento y la experiencia, ¿No es así?. Saludos para tí, Marina.
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Gracias, Claudia. Para ti también.
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Comment: "GRacias"
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Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
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learned person and wise
suerte
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Fernando Romero R
: I like this one.
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Gracias Fernando
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Carlos Segura
: Learned and wise, but to be true to the original and the historical context, "men" instead of "persons".
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You're absolutely right Carlos... Many thanks
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TRANZsmart
: agree; but 'wise and learned...' is, i believe the more accepted standard phrase
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Many thanks Henry
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Robert Copeland
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erudite and wise
ya
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Janet Ross Snyder
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Muchas gracias!!!!!
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Vanesa Camarasa (X)
: That's right !
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Patricia Rosas
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lettered and scholarly men
an option ...
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-09-06 17:02:50 GMT)
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sabio, in this context, seems to me more to mean someone who has formal education (rather than just being a "wise" person)
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-09-06 17:02:50 GMT)
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sabio, in this context, seems to me more to mean someone who has formal education (rather than just being a "wise" person)
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Joost Elshoff (X)
: I would agree with this one, since it's the only one that correctly contrasts with "gente simple y ruda"
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thank you...
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wise and learned
...87000 hits for this phrase....
What did the wise and learned men who founded the greatest republic in the world (the USA--the most free and prosperous for over 200 years), believe about ...
www.icr.org/article/400/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
The Wandering MindThursday, November 18, 2004. God, Indivdualism and Pendulums. *One of my readers suggest I rename this piece, to reflect more accurately the theme and ideas ...
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Seabury: Worship: Sermons: Harvey H. Guthrie, Jr.'s sermon at the ...Anselm, wise and learned pastor and theologian that he was, was also, ... What was impossible to Anselm as wise and learned was possible to Anselm as ...
www.seabury.edu/worship/sermon_gary-hall-installation.php
What did the wise and learned men who founded the greatest republic in the world (the USA--the most free and prosperous for over 200 years), believe about ...
www.icr.org/article/400/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
The Wandering MindThursday, November 18, 2004. God, Indivdualism and Pendulums. *One of my readers suggest I rename this piece, to reflect more accurately the theme and ideas ...
thewanderingmind.blogspot.com/ - 94k - Cached - Similar pages
Seabury: Worship: Sermons: Harvey H. Guthrie, Jr.'s sermon at the ...Anselm, wise and learned pastor and theologian that he was, was also, ... What was impossible to Anselm as wise and learned was possible to Anselm as ...
www.seabury.edu/worship/sermon_gary-hall-installation.php
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TRANZsmart
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thanks, Henry
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liz askew
: yes
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thanks, scruff
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