Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
classe de 10e CM 1
English translation:
10th Grade/Year, CM 1 [COMMON CORE]
French term
classe de 10e CM 1
This is from a Malian Lycée Term Grade Report. I understand it's a 10th Grade term grade report but the "CM 1" throws me off.
The target audience is EN-US.
Thanks for your help.
4 +1 | class #1, 10th year, CM [Cycle Moyen] | Daryo |
4 | 4th grade of primary school | Cécile Gaultier |
Cours moyen 1re année | Daryo |
Sep 23, 2017 08:21: Robert Miki changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1315324">Robert Miki's</a> old entry - "classe de 10e CM 1"" to ""10th Grade/Year, CM 1 [COMMON]""
Sep 23, 2017 08:22: Robert Miki changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1315324">Robert Miki's</a> old entry - "classe de 10e CM 1"" to ""10th Grade/Year, CM 1 [COMMON]""
Sep 23, 2017 08:25: Robert Miki changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1315324">Robert Miki's</a> old entry - "classe de 10e CM 1"" to ""10th Grade/Year, CM 1 [COMMON]""
Proposed translations
class #1, 10th year, CM [Cycle Moyen]
Le Complexe Scolaire Toubacoro Alhassane Doucouré Hippodrome vous ouvre ses portes
dans les filières suivantes :
....
Classe de 10e
Année
Les classes de 10e Commune 10e CM
Classes de 11e Année
11e Lettres
11e Sciences
Classes de Terminales
Terminales Sciences Exactes TSE
Terminales Sciences Economiques TSEco.
Terminales Sciences Expérimentales TSExp.
Terminales Langues et Littérature TLL
Terminales Arts et Lettres TAL
Terminales Sciences Sociales TSS
http://toubacoro.com/les-etudes/forms/programmes.pdf
Que faire après la 9e ?
Le cycle moyen et le cycle supérieur de l’enseignement postprimaire
...
LE CYCLE MOYEN ET LE CYCLE SUPÉRIEUR
DE L’ENSEIGNEMENT POSTPRIMAIRE
(see page 8)
http://www.men.public.lu/catalogue-publications/secondaire/p...
I'm 99% sure that it's the same "cycle moyen" that used to be the term used in France (tens of) years ago, and is still used at least in some French speaking countries.
https://www.google.fr/search?q=cycle moyen de l'enseignement...
you can find the historical evolution of the various "baccalauréats" in France https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baccalauréat_en_France
but I couldn't find any historical data about previous naming and renaming of the years of schooling.
Wow, this research (Les classes de 10e Commune 10e CM) is closest to solving my worry. Having taught English Language in Lycées for several years, I know that the 2nde classes or classes de 10e Commune (10e CM) are generally COMMON CORE/JOINT CLASS, i.e., where all candidates study the same courses. Specialization only starts from 1ère A, C, D, etc/11th grade/year. It makes sense. Thanks. |
4th grade of primary school
agree |
Tony M
2 hrs
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neutral |
katsy
: in a lycée? Cf Asker's question
2 hrs
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disagree |
Daryo
: CM1 = Cours moyen 1 YES, but "equivalences" are full of traps ... // on closer examination (and FINALLY more context) "CM1 = Cours moyen 1" makes no sense - is a red herring - stands for something else.
4 hrs
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neutral |
AllegroTrans
: I would not try to find year equivalence here
4 hrs
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Reference comments
Cours moyen 1re année
Suivi par le CM2, cours moyen 2e année.
....
Voir aussi
Sur les autres projets Wikimedia :
Cours moyen 1re année, sur Wikiversity
École élémentaire en France
(en) 4e année, niveau équivalent dans quelques pays, principalement anglophones
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cours_moyen_1re_année
http://www.education.gouv.fr/pid285/bulletin_officiel.html?c...
Well explained:
http://www.ecole-internationale.ac-aix-marseille.fr/webphp/e...
BUT there is a huge BUT:
you DON'T do Mathematics, Physics-Chemistry, in the 4Th year of Primary school
normally you do the 4Th year of Primary school (= Cours moyen 1re année) when you are 9 not 16 years old
It would be "l'école élémentaire" not "le lycée"
Discussion
http://www.gnetaaso.com/DOCs/DEV LGDK CM1.docx
confirms that "CM" relates to the curriculum and "1" means the class #1 of those doing "10è CM" - same numbering system as used in any Lycée in France.
As I said before, CM1 will probably have to left as is without explanation, because we have no explanation to give.
According to this source, https://www.epdc.org/country/mali , 10th seems to be like France's 2nde. However, as translators are not there to act as educational equivalence commissions, then a literal translation is often best.
Lycée Gnetaaso de Daoudabougou Kalaban-coura
www.gnetaaso.com/CM.html
Renseignement · Emploi du temps · Sport et Culture · Calendrier. Les Résultats. DEF · BAC. Liste des Élèves. 10ème Cm1 · 10ème Cm2 · 10ème Cm3 · 11è SC.
However, when you open the page you find that there is no "CM1", etc; there are now just two groups in 10ème, called CG1 and CG2. So it could be that they've changed the names from CM to CG but left the old page metadata, which appear in the Google result.
There's also this Maths homework from the same school for class "10èCM":
http://www.gnetaaso.com/DOCs/DEV LGDK CM1.docx
But it doesn't tell us what CM stands for.
"en classe de 10e (ou 2e dans les autres pays africains francophones voisins du Mali). [...]
Le niveau 3 chevauche les classes de 10e et de 11e (2e et 1ère dans le système français)."
http://www.msas.maliwatch.org/msas2002/pdf/msas_pp002_13.pdf
But I don't know what CM 1 means here.
2011/2012 : Classe de 10e CM 1
2012/2013 : Classe de 11e Sciences 1
2013/2014 : Séries : Terminales Sciences Exactes (T.S.E 1
just to add some confusion, it looks like in Mali they count from 1 to 11 before getting to the Terminale (in France they count down from 11 (Onzième) to 1 (Première) and then Terminale).
2013/2014 : Séries : Terminales Sciences Exactes (T.S.E 1)
class #1 preparing for the Baccalauréat of the type/Série "Sciences Exactes"
2012/2013 : Classe de 11e Sciences 1
and
2011/2012 : Classe de 10e CM 1
CM might be some kind of "tronc commun" that gets divided into "Sciences" the following year (and some other branch)
and "Sciences" itself gets later subdivided into a section "Sciences Exactes" (and some other).
with all that, all that is sure is that CM1 is not "Cours moyen 1re année", but what it is is not sure!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baccalauréat
http://www.lucg.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=articl...
http://www.aseica.org/page1006/page1107.en.htm
It still doesn't seem to add up.
2011/2012 : Classe de 10e CM 1
2012/2013 : Classe de 11e Sciences 1
2013/2014 : Séries : Terminales Sciences Exactes (T.S.E 1