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Hani Hassaan
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An indian company retained my payment for more than 35 days, I consulted all possible methods but at the end, I posted a negative comment on its Blue Board, but I wonder can this comment on the blue Board forces this company to pay for my services.
Are there any other ways to get my payment, please?


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Blueboard is not a collection method May 27, 2011

The point is that we all help the translator community identify and avoid bad payers. You cannot and should not use the Blueboard as a collection method or to force a company to pay you. It just allows you to warn others about bad business partners, and it is a fantastic tool.

 
Yasutomo Kanazawa
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Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't May 27, 2011

Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:

The point is that we all help the translator community identify and avoid bad payers. You cannot and should not use the Blueboard as a collection method or to force a company to pay you. It just allows you to warn others about bad business partners, and it is a fantastic tool.


Like Tomas wrote above, BB should not be used to force a company to pay you.

However, serious agencies who really care about their reputations tend to pay you once you enter a negative comment(s) on BB. But some dishonest agencies (including scammers who are just trying to deceive you in the first place) who don't care about their reputations would just ignore those negative comments. Therefore, if the agency you dealt with is really serious and care about their reputation, you will have a better chance of getting your money.


 
Heinrich Pesch
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Better look at BB first May 27, 2011

before you commit yourself to a job for the first time.
35 days is not so much, better try and phone them first.
On BB you announce if you are willing to work for the outsourcer again or not.


 
Hani Hassaan
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It was a clean May 27, 2011

Heinrich Pesch wrote:

before you commit yourself to a job for the first time.
35 days is not so much, better try and phone them first.
On BB you announce if you are willing to work for the outsourcer again or not.



Hi Heinrich,
Thanks, It was a good and clean Blue Board, I did a large project, they told me that we are waiting for funds from the end client , when I replied, I put their end-client by mistake, and here is a last answer from this company:

Hello Sir
We would like to mention that since you have put our end customer
in cc, we would no longer be involving in this deal We would leave this for you to resolve due to the step pronounced by you You d also left bad remarks of our company which has spoilt our repute Though we had mentioned that we would not be witholding your payment, this had been a haste move from your side
Thank you for your time
Best
Tina

[Edited at 2011-05-27 11:01 GMT]


 
Kuochoe Nikoi-Kotei
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It doesn't matter May 27, 2011

Don't let them get away with withholding your payment, whether you CC'ed their end customer or not ("accidentally"? really?). They owe you that money for the job regardless, so if you have to pursue legal means or resort to a collection agency to get it, start working on it right now.

 
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Tina's reply is bu****it May 27, 2011

... unless you have agreed not to contact the end client, and that such contact would void any payment. And I seriously doubt that there is such an agreement.

 
Hani Hassaan
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No agreements May 27, 2011

thanks, No agreements and she does not send me a PO, but all the correspondences using her company's e-mail.

Do you think the legal means a collection agency in a country like India is really useful or waste of time and money.


 
Susan Welsh
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collections agency? May 27, 2011

It depends in part on how large the sum of money is that you are owed. I would think the time and expense would be considerable, and doing such a thing in a far-away country can't be easy. I wouldn't try it unless it were a really substantial sum.

 
Hani Hassaan
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Yes, It is. May 27, 2011

Susan Welsh wrote:

It depends in part on how large the sum of money is that you are owed. I would think the time and expense would be considerable, and doing such a thing in a far-away country can't be easy. I wouldn't try it unless it were a really substantial sum.


thanks, Susan, Yes it is a large amount for a large project (30K) with a tight deadline, I mean can these legal methods work in country like India and will the collection company be useful and will not use me, so I will lose more money with the client and collection company?


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Not a good business partner May 28, 2011

Hani Hassaan wrote:
Hi Heinrich,
Thanks, It was a good and clean Blue Board, I did a large project, they told me that we are waiting for funds from the end client , when I replied, I put their end-client by mistake, and here is a last answer from this company:

Hello Sir
We would like to mention that since you have put our end customer
in cc, we would no longer be involving in this deal We would leave this for you to resolve due to the step pronounced by you You d also left bad remarks of our company which has spoilt our repute Though we had mentioned that we would not be witholding your payment, this had been a haste move from your side
Thank you for your time
Best

Indeed it was a mistake to involve the end customer in this. To me, our agreement is with our customer to all respects, and it is not a good idea to involve the end customer unless we are instructed so. Privacy is a must in our profession.

Having said that, since your customer does in fact involve the end customer in the deal (they are quick to report that they don't pay you because the end customer does not pay them), I reckon the end customer is involved in the deal after all.

Keep the Blueboard record, since clearly this is not a good business partner.


 


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