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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

se hace con el poder

English translation:

overpowered Denmark

Added to glossary by Comunican
Oct 29, 2008 20:25
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term

se hace con el poder

Spanish to English Other History
A text on the history of Stockholm:

"Suecia se hace con el poder de Dinamarca bajo el reinado de Carlos X, mientras que su hijo Carlos XI se dedicó a conservar las provincias suecas más meridionales"

Many thanks
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 overpowered Denmark
4 +2 Sweden controlled Denmark //Sweden exercised control over Denmark
4 +1 conquer; seize power in...; gain control of
5 -1 (Sweden) takes over (Denmark)
3 Sweden made large inroads into Denmark
1 +1 assumed control

Discussion

Andres Larsen Oct 30, 2008:
Sweden defeated but did not conquer Denmark I have done some more historical research on my answer below, adding an explanatory note.
Patricia Rosas Oct 29, 2008:
As I read it, I still think that for most of his reign, Sweden "overpowered" Denmark. At the very end of the article, Denmark, with the help of the Dutch, defeats the Swedes, but this was just little more than a year before Charles's death.
Comunican (asker) Oct 29, 2008:
Hi everyone and thanks for your input. I didnt realise this would be such an exciting question :-)
I had already read the Wikipedia link that Patricia proposed and it seems inconclusive.. ""Sweden overpowered Denmark during the reign of Charles X" and "Denmark sacrificed a great part of her territory to save the rest" sounds pretty much like "Sweden overpowered Denmark" but then it says "[Denmark and the Dutch defeated] the Swedish fleet in the Battle of the Sound on 29 October 1658".
Hence my confusion...

Proposed translations

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9 mins
Selected

overpowered Denmark

hacerse con means to "take over" (conseguir) and apparently that's what Charles X did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_X_of_Sweden#War_on_Denm...

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Note added at 44 mins (2008-10-29 21:10:19 GMT)
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Comunican: I just want to point out that I assumed it was clear that I was saying "Sweden overpowered Denmark during the reign of Charles X". The Wikipedia article says: "Swedish arms quickly overpowered the Danish troops" and "and he attacked Denmark with a velocity which paralysed resistance"
Peer comment(s):
agree Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
13 mins
thanks, Patricia!
neutral Graham Timmins : the Swedish army overpowered the Danish army. Can a man 'overpower' a country? 'Defeated' is the obvious word but I suppose you want a literal rendition of 'poder'-
18 mins
My rendering is Sweden overpowered Denmark during the reign of Charles X. Please see my notes above to Comunican.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "i think this was spot on - thanks very much!"
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30 mins
Spanish term (edited): Suecia se hace con el poder de Dinamarca ...

Sweden controlled Denmark //Sweden exercised control over Denmark

Either of these options would work better than the other two suggestions offered thus far.

Suerte.
Peer comment(s):
agree Graham Timmins : What about 'took control over Denmark', esp as it was a dramatic but short term situation (Denmark lost territory but Sweden would soon lose the war in effect esp in terms of controlling the access to the Baltic)
4 mins
I don't think that "took control over" works here; but, perhaps, given what you write here, "temporarily took control/exercised control of." Thank you.
agree Mónica Sauza
6 hrs
Thank you, Moni.
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32 mins

(Sweden) takes over (Denmark)

Sweden takes over Denmark, annexing all of it into the Swedish Kingdom. 1871- 1907 -France, the undisputed power of Continental Europe following the ...
www.shatteredboard.net/forum/viewtopic.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Graham Timmins : No, Karl Gustav forced territorial concessions, Sweden neither took over nor annexed Denmark in 1658 or any other date!
13 mins
I stand corrected - you are right. Thank you :)
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+1
1 hr

conquer; seize power in...; gain control of

... with conquer being my first choice, as in:

This led to a massive Danish defeat and the armies of King Charles X Gustav of Sweden conquered both Jutland, Funen and much of Zealand before signing the Peace of Roskilde in February 1658 which gave Sweden control of Skåne, Blekinge, Trøndelag and the island of Bornholm. Charles X Gustav quickly regretted not having destroyed Denmark completely and in August 1658 he began a two-year long siege of Copenhagen but failed to take the capital. In the following peace settlement, Denmark managed to maintain its independence and regain control of Trøndelag and Bornholm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark
Peer comment(s):
agree franglish : 'gained control over Denmark' to my mind
9 hrs
many thanks franglish!
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6 hrs

Sweden made large inroads into Denmark

I think that the "se hace con el poder" is meant to be understood in a partial way, because Denmark survived as a country, and that the writer contrasts this statement with the next one, where he says that Charles XI only consolidated, without acquiring more territory

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Note added at 6 hrs (2008-10-30 02:30:05 GMT)
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or you can delete the "large" if you prefer
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1 hr

assumed control

"Sweden assumed control in Denmark during the reign of Charles X, while his son Charles XI spent his time holding on to the southernmost Swedish provinces (facing Denmark)"

Charles XI -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia - Charles assumed control of the armies and the administration after the Swedish ... Although Denmark and Sweden cooperated during the war to protect their ...
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/107238/Charles-XI -

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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-10-30 18:56:21 GMT)
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The question here is tricky as Sweden did not conquer or completely overpower Denmark. Instead it defeated Denmark militarily but failed to effectively conquer it, leaving the Danish king Frederic III in power, with Sweden bowing to international pressure afterwards and backing down when Denmark ceded extensive territories to Sweden in the Treaties of Taastrup and Roskilde.

see sources:

Charles X Gustav of Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - However, Charles X continued the war efforts against Denmark after a council held at Gottorp on 7 July, even though he was in defiance of international ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_X_of_Sweden - 89k -

Frederick III of Denmark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Frederick III (March 18, 1609 – February 19, 1670) was king of Denmark and Norway from 1648 until his death. He stands as the ruler who introduced absolute ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_III_of_Denmark - 70k -

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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-10-30 19:00:26 GMT)
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small typo above:

Swedish King Charles X defeated Danish King Frederick III (and not Frederic III)

Sorry for the unintentional misspelling of the Danish king's name
Peer comment(s):
agree Analog : While some of the other answers "controlled", "exercised control", "overpowered" are good, I think "assumed control" sounds best to native English ears.
44 mins
neutral Robert Forstag : The problem with "assumed control" is that it connotes a certain passivity, as if Sweden came to govern Denmark as a result of a decision of some International Congress.
1 hr
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