Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

patrón repetitivo

English translation:

recurring pattern

Added to glossary by MPGS
Oct 2, 2013 13:40
10 yrs ago
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Spanish term

patrón repetitivo

Spanish to English Social Sciences Psychology
En el caso de la Reparación autoinformada por las hijas ninguna variable familiar relacionada con la Atención muestra relaciones significativas. En el caso de los hijos, sin embargo tanto para el factor Claridad como el de Reparación se muestra un patrón repetitivo correlacionando de manera significativa con la Atención percibida en el padre y la madre.

This was my translation:

In the case of the daughters’ SEI for repair no significant relationships were found in the family variables for attention. However, in the case of the sons a repetitive pattern was found for both the clarity and repair factors, which correlates significantly with the perceived attention of their mothers and fathers.

The client tells me that the reviewer does not like the expression "repetitive pattern" Any ideas?
Change log

Oct 7, 2013 06:58: MPGS Created KOG entry

Discussion

Jenni Lukac (X) Oct 2, 2013:
No problem. I read a fragment without having a grasp of the whole and jumped to the conclusion that you were so caught up in the dilemma of what to do about the reviewer's criticism that you had forgotten to check the punctuation - a really stupid reaction on my part, considering that your question was about a reviewer's reaction to a term you had used, and at that point in the game you would have already taken care of these details. Apologies once again!
peter jackson (asker) Oct 2, 2013:
Could I just apologise, Jenni, for my rather snotty reply. This document is beginning to make me a bit fractious.
Jenni Lukac (X) Oct 2, 2013:
Point taken! (twice). Good luck with the document.
peter jackson (asker) Oct 2, 2013:
As strange as it may seem, Jenni, i understand how to use the possessive case. It is study based on the results of around forty daughters and there is absolutely no need for a possessive for sons here. But thankyou for you advice anyway!
peter jackson (asker) Oct 2, 2013:
As strange as it may seem, Jenni, i understand how to use the possessive case. It is study based on the results of around forty daughters and there is absolutely no need for a possessive for sons here. But thankyou for you advice anyway!
Jenni Lukac (X) Oct 2, 2013:
FYI: Sons and daughters - if there is only one daughter involved, it should be "daughter's" not "daughters'" and don't forget the possessive in "son's,"!
Maybe the reviewer would "pattern of repetition" better. Good luck!
MPGS Oct 2, 2013:
Agree witn Holly-Anne IMHO, reviewers that earn their work should say what alternative they recommend, not just what they dislike.
Good luck
:-)
Holly-Anne Whyte Oct 2, 2013:
Tell the client you stick by your translation. You could ask the client to ask the reviewer to justify why they disagree with your translation.

Failing a convincing reply, I would just tell the client that you stick by your original translation and provide evidence in the form of some of the links provided in this discussion.
peter jackson (asker) Oct 2, 2013:
I am, frankly, a bit stupmed about what to do. Perhaps best to ask client for further clarification ......
Billh Oct 2, 2013:
Peter it seems a very used term Borderline Personality Disorders
www.stanford.edu/~corelli/borderline.html

A person with a borderline personality disorder often experiences a repetitive pattern of disorganization and instability in self-image, mood, behavior and close ...

Underachievement, Psychologists Cincinnati, Family Success ...
www.familysuccessconsortium.com/programs/underachievement.h...
Psychologists ... These behaviors, suggestive of underachievement, evolve into a repetitive pattern as children struggle to work through the stages of ...

AS/SA No 15, Article 2: Pete Willows, "Gestalt Psychology, Semiotics ...
french.chass.utoronto.ca/as-sa/ASSA-No15/article2en.html‎

1910) from psychological studies of perception, more specifically, the way in ..... a single, repetitive pattern, looking for all the world like the palm of a person's ...
Holly-Anne Whyte Oct 2, 2013:
Would just pattern do? Firstly, I can understand why your client is unhappy with the phrase repetitive pattern, as the word pattern implies repetition. That being said, the phrase does seem quite common and seems to have a specific meaning in this context:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evil-deeds/200806/essent...

http://blog.qsac.com/2008/12/understanding-restricted-repeti...

Given that 'pattern' implies repetition could you just use pattern on its own, or something like 'recurrent/recurring pattern' as an alternative to just - dare I say it - keep the client happy.
peter jackson (asker) Oct 2, 2013:
Yes, so did I, obviously but the client has put a note "concepto discutido"
Billh Oct 2, 2013:
I like your repetitive pattern.

Proposed translations

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recurring pattern

https://www.google.es/?gws_rd=cr&ei=GyxMUuqGHszEswao54CYAg#q...

About 85,700 results

:)

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Note added at 4 days (2013-10-07 06:57:27 GMT) Post-grading
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gracias a todos
:)
Peer comment(s):

agree teju
1 hr
thx teju, Many moons no see. Heartful cheers :)
agree Ronaldo Bassini
1 hr
thx Ronaldo, Best :)
agree franglish
1 hr
thx franglish, Best :)
agree Jessie LN
1 hr
thx Jessie, Best :)
agree John Cutler
2 hrs
thx a lot, John Best :)
agree Yvonne Gallagher
3 hrs
thx gallagy2 Best :)
neutral Holly-Anne Whyte : I don't think this is wrong but I do think the original 'repetitive pattern' is better. If we are going by Google results '"repetitive pattern" psychology' has about 130,000 results and '"recurring pattern" psychology' has about 86,000 on .co.uk.
3 hrs
Thank u Holly-Anne. your Google search is right. :)
agree Pablo Julián Davis
13 hrs
gracias, Pablo. Saludos :)
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16 mins

constant pattern

I believe it is a good alternative.
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systematic/repeated response/behaviour

Other alternatives to pattern: model, reaction, tendency.
HTH
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32 mins

pattern

I wouldn't have thought you'd need to say "repeated" or "repetitive" - isn't the defining characteristic of a pattern the fact that it repeats? Can't you just say "patterns were observed in both the..."?
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