Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
авось пронесет
English translation:
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Elena Ivaniushina
Nov 4, 2003 21:51
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Russian term
Russian Federation
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Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian
авось пронесет
Russian to English
Art/Literary
conversational
Перевожу подборку газетных статей; некоторые из них написаны весьма идиоматичным языком. В данном случае речь идет о том, что, несмотря на большое количество отмеченных упущений и недочетов, некая информационная система была внедрена в крупном министерстве "в надежде на авось" (авось пронесет).
Если сможете подсказать живой, идиоматичный, вольный аналог русского выражения, будет замечательно. (Ищу выражение по возможности неформальное, живое, и при этом вполне литературное).
Если сможете подсказать живой, идиоматичный, вольный аналог русского выражения, будет замечательно. (Ищу выражение по возможности неформальное, живое, и при этом вполне литературное).
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | some way or other (one way or another) it will work out |
Yxz (X)
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| 4 +3 | "Make it or break" it approach/strategy |
Oleg Pashuk (X)
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| 4 +1 | simply hoping that it would fly |
olganet
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| 4 +1 | in hope of winging it/hoping they could [just] wing it |
Montefiore
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| 4 +1 | hoping for luck; by pot-shot approach; as a pot-shot |
Vera Fluhr (X)
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| 4 | hit-or-miss approach |
Vladimir Pochinov
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| 4 | by guess and by God /on the off-chance |
Natalie
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| 4 | hoping for a miracle |
sergey (X)
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Proposed translations
+3
2 hrs
Selected
some way or other (one way or another) it will work out
one more way to say it
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Note added at 2003-11-05 00:34:33 (GMT)
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trusting to luck
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Note added at 2003-11-05 00:41:39 (GMT)
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If we are not lucky, a major and prolonged disruption will occur in their section of the financial markets. **Trusting to luck** and the decisions of people without a strategic perspective is not an appropriate way of dealing with the problem.
http://www.hermetic.ch/y2k/estes01.htm
**Trusting to luck** and improvisation is courting disaster unless luck is defined as the point where planning and preparation meet.
www.tellefsen.com/backpages.cfm?PageNo=13
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Note added at 2003-11-05 01:18:09 (GMT)
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trust to sth
to rely on a particular thing [**esp. luck**], usually because nothing else is available to help you
There\'s no guarantee we\'ll win - we\'ll just have to **trust to luck**.
(from Cambridge International Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs)
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=trust.to*1 0&...
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Note added at 2003-11-05 01:40:22 (GMT)
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crossing their fingers
I guess this one is close enogh. Something like - they did it and crossed their fingers.
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Note added at 2003-11-05 01:40:49 (GMT)
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sorry, enough
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Note added at 2003-11-05 00:34:33 (GMT)
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trusting to luck
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Note added at 2003-11-05 00:41:39 (GMT)
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If we are not lucky, a major and prolonged disruption will occur in their section of the financial markets. **Trusting to luck** and the decisions of people without a strategic perspective is not an appropriate way of dealing with the problem.
http://www.hermetic.ch/y2k/estes01.htm
**Trusting to luck** and improvisation is courting disaster unless luck is defined as the point where planning and preparation meet.
www.tellefsen.com/backpages.cfm?PageNo=13
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Note added at 2003-11-05 01:18:09 (GMT)
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trust to sth
to rely on a particular thing [**esp. luck**], usually because nothing else is available to help you
There\'s no guarantee we\'ll win - we\'ll just have to **trust to luck**.
(from Cambridge International Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs)
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=trust.to*1 0&...
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Note added at 2003-11-05 01:40:22 (GMT)
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crossing their fingers
I guess this one is close enogh. Something like - they did it and crossed their fingers.
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sorry, enough
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Всем огромное спасибо. Было много прекрасных вариантов, и хотелось бы дать очки сразу нескольким, но увы, нельзя. Выбираю ответ Marfusha, поскольку действительно использовала два предложенных ею варианта ("trust to luck" и " crossed their fingers")"
18 mins
Vladimir Pochinov
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Russian Federation
Certified English-Russian Translator
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian
Related KudoZ points
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2213
Russian term (edited):
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hit-or-miss approach
... When confronted with the need to assess a situation, gather information and reach a decision, most managers depend on a hit-or-miss approach. ...
www.computerbooks01.com/search/books/ AuthorSearch/Margo+Hittleman/1/
www.computerbooks01.com/search/books/ AuthorSearch/Margo+Hittleman/1/
+3
22 mins
"Make it or break" it approach/strategy
"Hope for the best" approach
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:14:48 (GMT)
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\"Do it and pray\" approach
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:25:37 (GMT)
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\"Let\'s hope it works\" approach
Also:
who can tell - maybe rain or maybe snow, maybe yes or maybe no либо дождик, либо снег, либо будет, либо нет :-)
(пословица)
www.multitran.ru
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:27:05 (GMT)
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I think, \"LET\'S HOPE IT WORKS\" APPROACH should do in this context
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Note added at 2003-11-05 02:07:13 (GMT)
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Also:
They left it to chance.
They took a chance on it.
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:14:48 (GMT)
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\"Do it and pray\" approach
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:25:37 (GMT)
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\"Let\'s hope it works\" approach
Also:
who can tell - maybe rain or maybe snow, maybe yes or maybe no либо дождик, либо снег, либо будет, либо нет :-)
(пословица)
www.multitran.ru
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Note added at 2003-11-04 22:27:05 (GMT)
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I think, \"LET\'S HOPE IT WORKS\" APPROACH should do in this context
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Note added at 2003-11-05 02:07:13 (GMT)
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Also:
They left it to chance.
They took a chance on it.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jack Doughty
: "Make or break", without "it". "Let's hope it works" is good too. When I was an engine fitter in the RAF, we used to say say "Fit it or f*** it", but that was specifically for engine or airframe fitting, and you obviously couldn't use it here anyway.
36 mins
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thank you:-)
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| agree |
Sara Noss
11 hrs
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thank you
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| agree |
Montefiore
: leave it to chance, or taking a chance on it is good
16 hrs
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thank you
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32 mins
by guess and by God /on the off-chance
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+1
1 hr
simply hoping that it would fly
to fly in the meaning of "to work successfully"
for example, "But My Broker Said It Would Fly!"
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hoping that it would get by
for example, "But My Broker Said It Would Fly!"
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hoping that it would get by
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tatiana Nero (X)
: hoping it would fly
14 hrs
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thank you
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+1
2 hrs
Montefiore
United States
United States
Native in Russian
United States
Experienced, knowledgeable, prompt
Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Ukrainian to Russian, Russian, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
312
Russian term (edited):
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in hope of winging it/hoping they could [just] wing it
In hope of just winging it
Hoping to get lucky
counting on getting lucky
Counting that they'll get lucky
Hoping they could wing it
Hoping they can get away with it (only if it fits the context closely)
"Avos'" is one of those words that is recognized even in the Anglo-American press as untranslatable, and I have encountered its transliteration in some journal articles.
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Note added at 2 hrs 40 mins (2003-11-05 00:32:03 GMT)
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Конечно, в Вашем контексте, Alya, наверное можно сказать hoping they can get away with it/hoping to get away with it. Otherwise, \"winging it\" would work, too, methinks.
Hoping to get lucky
counting on getting lucky
Counting that they'll get lucky
Hoping they could wing it
Hoping they can get away with it (only if it fits the context closely)
"Avos'" is one of those words that is recognized even in the Anglo-American press as untranslatable, and I have encountered its transliteration in some journal articles.
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Note added at 2 hrs 40 mins (2003-11-05 00:32:03 GMT)
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Конечно, в Вашем контексте, Alya, наверное можно сказать hoping they can get away with it/hoping to get away with it. Otherwise, \"winging it\" would work, too, methinks.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
sergey (X)
: wing it - AmE slang, closer to meaning - i'll just go with a flow
10 hrs
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no,it means exactly what I suggested earlier, and not what you are suggesting
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Yxz (X)
15 hrs
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thank you, Marfusha
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+1
3 hrs
hoping for luck; by pot-shot approach; as a pot-shot
Вот примеры со словом "pot-shot approach":
... When it comes to selecting the dial tone products a company needs, a
lot of businesses just take a 'pot shot' approach," Cochran said. ...
http://www.ft-cdc.com/.../ Dial_tone_service_saves_on_cost_of_phone_bill_Durocher::s_OklahomaCityBusiness_.doc
... therefore, any knowledge-pooling strategy using global networks as its matrix needs a more carefully thought out plan, rather than a pot-shot approach of the ...
http://www.asis.org/Bulletin/Aug-02/adamu.html
... The people in the KM conferences always spoke in vague generalities, or at best, took a pot-shot approach, looked for small things that would work. ...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kmci/message/334?source=1
... When it comes to selecting the dial tone products a company needs, a
lot of businesses just take a 'pot shot' approach," Cochran said. ...
http://www.ft-cdc.com/.../ Dial_tone_service_saves_on_cost_of_phone_bill_Durocher::s_OklahomaCityBusiness_.doc
... therefore, any knowledge-pooling strategy using global networks as its matrix needs a more carefully thought out plan, rather than a pot-shot approach of the ...
http://www.asis.org/Bulletin/Aug-02/adamu.html
... The people in the KM conferences always spoke in vague generalities, or at best, took a pot-shot approach, looked for small things that would work. ...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kmci/message/334?source=1
Reference:
13 hrs
hoping for a miracle
despite the shortcomings of the system, they held their breath, crossed their fingers and implemented it hoping for a miracle.
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... As even the philosopher catches himself hoping for a miracle when he is in distress,
dissatisfaction with his social position leads him to long for a reform ...
www.mises.org/epofe/c6sec4.asp
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... Are you one of those hunters who roll the dice each year, hoping for a miracle,
or are you one of those hunters who have already worked hard to increase the ...
www.al.com/outdoors/birminghamnews/mbolton.ssf
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Note added at 2003-11-05 12:02:47 (GMT)
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... As even the philosopher catches himself hoping for a miracle when he is in distress,
dissatisfaction with his social position leads him to long for a reform ...
www.mises.org/epofe/c6sec4.asp
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Note added at 2003-11-05 12:11:34 (GMT)
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... Are you one of those hunters who roll the dice each year, hoping for a miracle,
or are you one of those hunters who have already worked hard to increase the ...
www.al.com/outdoors/birminghamnews/mbolton.ssf
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