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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

talk over each other

French translation:

parler tous en même temps

Added to glossary by Karine Derancy (X)
May 22, 2016 12:26
8 yrs ago
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English term

talk over each other

English to French Art/Literary Other
• Individuals become passionately attached to an opinion and argue emotionally to prove others wrong.
• People talk over each other, not hearing each other’s ideas.
• Individuals get overly emotional and escalate slight differences of opinion until they become battles over principles.

(Talking about discussions in a meeting, challengers faced by a facilitator)
Proposed translations (French)
5 +6 parlent tous en même temps
4 +1 parlent sans s'écouter
4 se bousculent en paroles
3 +1 parlent plus fort les uns que les autres
3 s'interrompent les uns les autres
Change log

May 26, 2016 12:53: Karine Derancy (X) Created KOG entry

May 26, 2016 12:54: Karine Derancy (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/2161790">Karine Derancy (X)'s</a> old entry - "talk over each other"" to ""parlent tous en même temps""

Discussion

Jocelyne Cuenin May 22, 2016:
Merci, ormiston, je commence à cerner la bête !
ormiston May 22, 2016:
TOUS ne peuvent pas monopoliser la conversation ! Mais ils essaient.... En poursuivant leur idée sans écouter celles des autres!
Jocelyne Cuenin May 22, 2016:
Thanks, Tony.
Tony M May 22, 2016:
@ Petitavoine That's exactly the problem here! 'talking over' and 'cutting people off' are VERY close synonyms, the idea of 'talking over' perhaps more implying the notion of 'shutting someone up by talking louder than them' (overlapping), where 'cutting them off' doesn't imply anything about the loudness, but rather suggests things like jumping in when they pause for breath!
So however it is actually translated, IMHO it needs to include this idea of ignoring what someone is saying and expressing forcefully what THEY want to say instead.
Jocelyne Cuenin May 22, 2016:
Une question Je vois que Tony et Ormiston traduiraient par 'couper la parole', mais on a quand même cut sb off
( Cutting people off and talking over them has become the new norm in our demanding, impatient, instant gratification world. - See more at: http://conniedieken.com/influence-blog/how-to-communicate-wi...
Est-ce que cela irait dans le sens de 'ne pas laisser qn en placer une' / monopoliser la conversation ?
Tony M May 22, 2016:
@ Ormiston Yes, it's exactly that!
ormiston May 22, 2016:
it's more the idea of les gens coupent la parole aux autres, sans les écouter
Tony M May 22, 2016:
GLOSSARY Please try a term search, we've had something very similar to this before, so there should already be an entry in the glossary, which would I feel sure be helpful to you here.

Proposed translations

+6
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parlent tous en même temps

Les gens parlent tous en même temps.
Peer comment(s):
agree GILLES MEUNIER
1 min
agree CarolineRodg (X)
5 mins
agree Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
8 mins
agree mchd
47 mins
disagree Tony M : The implication of 'over each other' in the source text is more about one person trying to top another (cf. 'talk each other down'), rather than this idea 'all speaking at the same time' / I'll go as far as saying this is an inaccurate rendering of s/t.
1 hr
agree Solen Fillatre
3 hrs
agree katsy : on n'a qu'à écouter n'importe quelle émission de discussion à la radio ou à la télé par exemple! They talk over each other- tous en même temps, ils ne laissent pas l'autre parler (si possible!), et celui qui écoute ne peut rien saisir...
7 hrs
agree Annie Rigler
21 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci!"
+1
8 mins

parlent sans s'écouter

"Les “parasites” dans la communication | …Translate this page
https://truelotusself.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/les-parasites...
Les conflits mettent souvent en scène deux émetteurs qui essaient de se parler sans s’écouter. Le plus grand problème dans la communication, ..."
Peer comment(s):
agree Tony M : Very much in line with ormiston's suggestion in the discussion — though I do like the addition of 'couper la parole'. You both seem to have understood all the subtlety of the source text correctly.
5 hrs
thanks, Tony!
neutral ormiston : my issue with 'sans s'écouter' is that it sounds ominously like 'without listening to what they themselves are saying ' which is ironucally the opposte as those interrupters ONLY listen to theselves and ignore anything anyone else might be trying to say!
5 hrs
Obviously sans écouter LES AUTRES. Goes without saying.
neutral Odile Raymond : N'exprime pas l'idée de surenchère véhiculée par "over", bien que le résultat soit bien celui-là (ils ne s'écoutent pas).
6 hrs
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1 hr

se bousculent en paroles

suggéré
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+1
4 hrs

parlent plus fort les uns que les autres

une autre idée...

"Randonnee Onimus 2009 - Jean Onimus
www.jeanonimus.eu/Randonnee 2009/Randonnee.htm
Je n'ai jamais connu un dîner aussi affreux avec ces italiens qui parlent plus fort les uns que les autres dans une salle à manger qui résonne "

Découvrir selon Vacances Transat - Easyvoyage
www.easyvoyage.com/actualite/decouvrir-selon-vacances-trans...
24 nov. 2015 - Oublions les circuits durant lesquels les participants se pressent comme des citrons, parlent plus fort les uns que les autres, et râlent durant la ...

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Je vois que Tony et Ormiston traduiraient par 'couper la parole', mais on a quand même cut sb off
( Cutting people off and talking over them has become the new norm in our demanding, impatient, instant gratification world. - See more at: http://conniedieken.com/influence-blog/how-to-communicate-wi...
Est-ce que cela irait dans le sens de 'ne pas laisser qn en placer une' / monopoliser la conversation ?

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-05-22 18:17:56 GMT)
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Voyons ce qu'en pensent les 'natifs'.
En tout cas, la traduction que j'ai proposée ne semble pas coller à la réalité...
Peer comment(s):
agree Odile Raymond : "Over" implique l'idée d'une surenchère. On veut littéralement couvrir la voix des autres avec la sienne. Mais cela marche aussi au sens figuré : parler plus fort que les autres dans le sens de "monopoliser la parole".
51 mins
sympa, Odile :-)
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6 hrs

s'interrompent les uns les autres

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Note added at 6 heures (2016-05-22 19:16:09 GMT)
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// Se coupent la parole
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