Dec 13, 2018 19:26
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Spanish term

cabreada de un rancho

Spanish to English Other Architecture rural Argentina
This is actually a description of an installation by an Argentine artist where paintings on corrugated tin rest on a wooden structure. Rancho in Argentina often means a primitive farm house, but here maybe it has to do with corrals. The sentence reads:

Los jardines de mi reina (2018) es la representación de un jardín barroco francés realizada con esmalte sintético sobre chapa acanalada de zinc, montada a su vez sobre una estructura de carpintería muy similar a la cabreada de un rancho. El habitáculo es uno de los temas que ronda el trabajo del artista que si hasta ahora venía poniendo el acento en los males del hacinamiento, en algo parece haber cambiado.

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Tomasso Dec 17, 2018:
as little cutting, fitting as possible? Old farm buildings here in Idaho relied on as little work as possible, do not accomodate the rafters to the plates, just make a triangle, putting long rafters on, alongside etc, end up with the roof joists not aligned with studs in the vall,( House working on today had no eves an redoing it is a pain) Would gurss a primitive triange over an A frame, juist guessing.
Charles Davis Dec 14, 2018:
@Marcelo I agree. I've changed it to Architecture. Maybe Construction (Civil Engineering) would be more suitable, or some other category I haven't thought of, but "civil engineering" seems a bit over the top for a rancho. The real context is Art, but "cabreada" isn't an art term.
Marcelo González Dec 14, 2018:
Given the discussion ... ...this seems more technical than this question's current classification suggests. It should probably be changed.
JohnMcDove Dec 13, 2018:
And never to be confused with "cabritada"! God forbid!
Charles Davis Dec 13, 2018:
Yes, variant of cabriada Which does mean a roof truss (cercha in Spain, one of the series of triangular structures that holds up a pitched roof, each consisting of a horizontal joist along the bottom and two inclined rafters, reinforced with struts and tie beams), but since this "cabreada" supports a corrugated metal sheet, they're probably referring to two or more trusses connected by purlins (the horizontal timbers perpendicular to the rafters). So probably Phil's roof frame would be a good bet here.
Marie Wilson Dec 13, 2018:
Roof trusses/trussed rafters Looking at Phil's images, it is the wooden triangle supporting the picture, and it seems like cabreadas could be another spelling/typo for cabriadas:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-spanish/mechanics-mech...

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a farmhouse/barn roof joist

This Mercadolibre listing shows various types of "cabreadas" made of metal. Presumably wooden ones exist too.

https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ar/herramientas-y-construcc...

Not sure exactly what they'd be called, but here's an idea:

Roof joists

are found on low-slope roofs (slope of 2 in 12 or less). Their functions are similar to rafters. Roof joists may span continuously from one side of the house to another or may be supported on an interior bearing wall. They may carry ceiling loads.

https://www.shopyourway.com/questions/1005697

I believe the metal ones referred to in the Mercadolibre listings above are known as "open web steel joists":

In structural engineering, the open web steel joist (OWSJ) is a lightweight steel truss consisting, in the standard form, of parallel chords and a triangulated web system, proportioned to span between bearing points.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_web_steel_joist

I suppose "farmhouse" or "barn" might be the idea here for "de un rancho".
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framework of a small, rural building

'Cabreadas' are beams, but cabreada de xxxx appears to be framework.

In fact, Phil's ref is entitled 'cabreada de madera' and has ilustrations of various types of framing.

This ref shows 'cabreada de metal'. As ccan be seen, most of the photos are of building framework.
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I think the first picture is the work referred to, or another in the same series. The wooden structures don't remind me of anything in particular.
http://hachegaleria.com/artistas.php?i=27

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-12-13 21:02:24 GMT)
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Could be a roof frame:
http://www.pinterest.com.au/biglione0963/cabreada-de-madera/
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Robert Carter : We arrived at this by different means, but I think your idea of the generic "roof frame" is probably the way to go.
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agree JohnMcDove
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