Apr 27, 2010 18:21
14 yrs ago
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French term
surcharge vive
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
Steel / Load bearing capacity
• Selon une note de calcul établie lors de la conception initiale de la Traverse , celle-ci aurait été conçue pour une surcharge vive répartie de 4 T/m2 .
This is referring to steel used in steel sheets.
I don't understand "surcharge vive" here: if the steel was designed to bear a certain load (4t/m2), why "surcharge"?
This is referring to steel used in steel sheets.
I don't understand "surcharge vive" here: if the steel was designed to bear a certain load (4t/m2), why "surcharge"?
Proposed translations
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4 | imposed load |
Bourth (X)
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5 +2 | live load |
kashew
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imposed load
That's the term these days. We used to speak of "live loads", but for the layman, at least, that became confusing because people tended to think of live loads as the people on an office floor and dead loads as the furniture, typewriters, grand pianos, etc. In fact, both static and dynamic "moveable" loads are "imposed loads" - imposed on the loadbearing structure which has its own dead loads - now known as permanent loads -, including selfweight.
imposed load ( im′pōzd ′lōd ) ( civil engineering ) Any load which a structure must sustain, other than the weight of the structure.
www.answers.com/topic/imposed-load
Imposed Load
A load that can be moved; for example, boxes or vehicles
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/i/imposed-load.h...
Live Load
The weight of people, things and materials that are not always present at the same place in a building. A live load is assumed to provide lateral pressure but not vertical pressure
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/l/live-load.html
Dead Load
The weight of materials that are always present at the same place in a building. The dead load can provide lateral pressure against the wall as well as vertical force downward on the wall mass.
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/d/dead-load.html
IMPOSED LOAD The load produced by occupancy and use including storage, inhabitants ... LIVE LOAD term sometimes used for IMPOSED LOADS. LONGITUDINAL BRACING ...
www.wolf-system.co.uk/glossary.asp
LIVE LOAD, a term often used instead of IMPOSED LOAD. ...
www.gte-uk.com/glossary.php
I've never seen surcharge vive. However, Kiwipedia has made a note of a surcharge libre which apparently translated as "live load", though I suspect it's a redundancy born out of confusion.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-27 20:45:09 GMT)
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SURCHARGE (n.f.) Se distingue de la charge par le fait que son application n'est pas permanente. Toutefois, dans le cas d'une longue durée d'application (plus de trois mois consécutifs ou 50 % du temps), la surcharge doit être considérée comme permanente.
http://www.crit.archi.fr/Web Folder/bois/Bois/9.Glossaire/s....
However, it would appear not everyone is ready to drop "live load" and so have come up with "superimposed load" ... but that's Canada for you.
SURCHARGE: charge appliquée à un élément de charpente en raison de son utilisation prévue. La surcharge peut être due à la circulation, l'usage, l'entreposage des matériaux, la neige, le vent, les séismes ou autres charges transitoires
http://www.cssbi.ca/Fra/lexique.shtml#s
LOAD - LIVE: Is the load on a structural member resulting from its intended use. This load could be the result of traffic, occupancy, storage of materials, snow, wind, earthquake, or other transient loads.
LOAD - SUPERIMPOSED: This is the sum of the live load plus the dead load minus the self-weight of the structural member. (Often used for composite slab load tables).
http://www.cssbi.ca/Eng/glossary.shtml#i
imposed load ( im′pōzd ′lōd ) ( civil engineering ) Any load which a structure must sustain, other than the weight of the structure.
www.answers.com/topic/imposed-load
Imposed Load
A load that can be moved; for example, boxes or vehicles
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/i/imposed-load.h...
Live Load
The weight of people, things and materials that are not always present at the same place in a building. A live load is assumed to provide lateral pressure but not vertical pressure
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/l/live-load.html
Dead Load
The weight of materials that are always present at the same place in a building. The dead load can provide lateral pressure against the wall as well as vertical force downward on the wall mass.
http://www.interconstruction.co.uk/glossary/d/dead-load.html
IMPOSED LOAD The load produced by occupancy and use including storage, inhabitants ... LIVE LOAD term sometimes used for IMPOSED LOADS. LONGITUDINAL BRACING ...
www.wolf-system.co.uk/glossary.asp
LIVE LOAD, a term often used instead of IMPOSED LOAD. ...
www.gte-uk.com/glossary.php
I've never seen surcharge vive. However, Kiwipedia has made a note of a surcharge libre which apparently translated as "live load", though I suspect it's a redundancy born out of confusion.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-27 20:45:09 GMT)
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SURCHARGE (n.f.) Se distingue de la charge par le fait que son application n'est pas permanente. Toutefois, dans le cas d'une longue durée d'application (plus de trois mois consécutifs ou 50 % du temps), la surcharge doit être considérée comme permanente.
http://www.crit.archi.fr/Web Folder/bois/Bois/9.Glossaire/s....
However, it would appear not everyone is ready to drop "live load" and so have come up with "superimposed load" ... but that's Canada for you.
SURCHARGE: charge appliquée à un élément de charpente en raison de son utilisation prévue. La surcharge peut être due à la circulation, l'usage, l'entreposage des matériaux, la neige, le vent, les séismes ou autres charges transitoires
http://www.cssbi.ca/Fra/lexique.shtml#s
LOAD - LIVE: Is the load on a structural member resulting from its intended use. This load could be the result of traffic, occupancy, storage of materials, snow, wind, earthquake, or other transient loads.
LOAD - SUPERIMPOSED: This is the sum of the live load plus the dead load minus the self-weight of the structural member. (Often used for composite slab load tables).
http://www.cssbi.ca/Eng/glossary.shtml#i
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Comment: "Thanks very much for your help."
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live load
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Note added at 2 heures (2010-04-27 20:52:23 GMT)
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BSI loading types:
Dead loading
Climatic loading
Wind loading
Live loading
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Note added at 2 heures (2010-04-27 20:52:23 GMT)
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BSI loading types:
Dead loading
Climatic loading
Wind loading
Live loading
Note from asker:
Thank you for your help. I think your answer is correct as well as "imposed load"; I wish the system allowed me to choose more than one answer... |
Peer comment(s):
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chris collister
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Thank you, CC.
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agree |
Bashiqa
: Seems ok to me, although I feel like a dead load at the moment
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You still in that tunnel, Chris?
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Discussion
http://tinyurl.com/2fj8f32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_and_live_loads Dynamic loads are subtly different in that timescales may be shorter, ie dynamic loads are augmented by transient phenomena such as gusty wind loading, traffic, etc. A live load, on the other hand, may include longer term, quasi-static loads such as temporary scaffolding.