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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

commissione dei dieci saggi

English translation:

the Committee of Ten Wise Men

Added to glossary by Tom in London
Nov 29, 2013 16:01
10 yrs ago
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Italian term

commissione dei dieci saggi

Italian to English Bus/Financial Finance (general) Website of a finance company
Website of a finance company listing the chief office holders and their other appointments, one is:
" Membro della commissione dei 10 “saggi” nominati dal Presidente della Repubblica Italiana"

Should I leave it in Italian with an explanation along the lines of "the ten wise men/women" (well we are near to Xmas)

thanks
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 the Committee of 10 Wise Men
4 +1 the ten wise men / experts board
3 so-called wise men
Change log

Dec 4, 2013 09:39: Tom in London Created KOG entry

Discussion

Tom in London Nov 29, 2013:
I know. I know. My point is that there is a resonance in English.
bluenoric Nov 29, 2013:
And the "Three Wise Men" are the "Tre Re Magi" in Italian, there is really no connection.
philgoddard Nov 29, 2013:
Sadly, they are all men.
Tom in London Nov 29, 2013:
Men Only I fear not. In Italy, gender equality still has to resolve the matter of "uomini"- which is used even when women are involved ! And anyway the play on the "Three Wise Men" in Christian mythology is probably part of it. You can't really say "The 10 Wise People".
Marshmellow (asker) Nov 29, 2013:
can I get away with "men" if there are women involved, do you think?

Proposed translations

+3
7 mins
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the Committee of 10 Wise Men

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100607980


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Note added at 9 mins (2013-11-29 16:11:17 GMT)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21981679
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21981679

Etc. Many English-language sources talk about "10 Wise Men"
Peer comment(s):
agree Eren Kutlu Carnì
20 mins
agree philgoddard
1 hr
neutral Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA) : I wonder if the tongue-in-cheek was really meant. the news stories in italian seemed to be 'sincere' about the saggi part. Am I misreading your answer Tom?
20 hrs
no idea. You might be.
agree Peter Cox
1 day 13 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "many thanks, have gone for a "via di mezzo""
16 mins

so-called wise men

Even though it is a bit clumsy, I would recommend that you refer to them as "so-called wise men" and then, if possible, indicate that he was one of 10 special advisors.

Calling him a "special advisor" or "expert" without the "wise men" reference does not do justice to this appointment. The AP article attached refers to them as "sages" in the title but "wise men" in the article. Personally, I would go with the latter.
Reference:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/italys-10-sages-try-help-form-government

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+1
17 hrs

the ten wise men / experts board

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Peer comment(s):
agree Ashish (HIN,ENG) Nadia (ITA)
2 hrs
The
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