Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

scoprire l'acqua calda

English translation:

reinvent the wheel

Added to glossary by Giorgio Tenedios (X)
Jan 26, 2008 07:06
16 yrs ago
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Italian term

scoprire l'acqua calda

Italian to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Come si può tradurre meglio in inglese questa frase?
Change log

Jan 26, 2008 15:26: Catherine Bolton changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Other" , "Field (specific)" from "Law (general)" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters"

Jan 27, 2008 06:04: Giorgio Tenedios (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

James (Jim) Davis Jan 27, 2008:
There is no "good friend". The full context is needed for a good translation which carries the irony and cutting derision of the Italian.
James (Jim) Davis Jan 26, 2008:
Sorry to disagree Dana. I'm writing here cos I have no room below. They look similar, but are used differently. http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/reinvent the wh...
If I knew a good translation I would have posted it.

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reinvent the wheel

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Peer comment(s):

agree Gad Kohenov : In American slang it's true. fare la scoperta dell'aqua calda (dedicarsi a qs di inutile).
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Thanks a lot!!!!
agree Maria Luisa Dell'Orto : Concordo, http://www.italianoscritto.com/interventi/testi/figurato.htm
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Grazie Maria Luisa. Buon weekend!!!
disagree James (Jim) Davis : Not the same thing. To reinvent the wheel is to spend (waste) time doing something incredibly difficult, which seems impossible not knowing that it has already been done and not to present something as completely new which everybody already knows anyway.
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Sorry, you don't agree James. How would you say it, if I may ask?
agree Tom in London : "to reinvent the wheel" isn't quiote right but in 25 years living Italy/UK I've never found an effective transalation of the delightful Italian expression. Maybe "to discover hot water" is really the only way to do it!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks a lot Dana and all those who attempted an answer, and in particular to James who took the trouble of investigating."
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Some discovery

As "You've just realised, have you ?"
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agree James (Jim) Davis : Some things require careful consideration. And anyway forget the points, think of the kudoz :-))
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Thanks; a bit late though
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(to say that) Queen Anne is dead

I wasn't familiar with this expression, so please wait for the natives to confirm whether it is used in real life and not just listed in dictionaries (by the way, it was Picchi).
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agree James (Jim) Davis : Pretty rare these days, Mostly in history books and what my grandmother used to say.
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That's what I feared. I'm more familiar with US idioms, but a quick online search returned very few hits and that made me duobly suspicious. Thanks for explaining, have a nice Sunday!
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to discover something obvious

Yyou may want to rephrase your sentence so it sounds good.

http://wlavita.it/wlavita_1_000010.htm

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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-01-27 05:50:17 GMT)
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I was thinking of a response such as, "Oh, so that's something new, is it?" (if you want some sarcasm)
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agree James (Jim) Davis
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thanks!
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