Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
за двадцать
English translation:
yet another
Added to glossary by
Michael Tovbin
Feb 26, 2012 20:38
12 yrs ago
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Russian term
за двадцать
Russian to English
Art/Literary
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
Zionist protagonist says, regarding the Palestinians, "не ратую за двадцать какое-то арабское государство, отхватывая куски от нашей маленькой полоски суши"
All of that makes sense, but "за двадцать"? Is it money? Twenty isn't much, is it?
Here's some context:
Я не участвую в объявлении группы арабов-пришельцев отдельным народом, не называю их "палестинцами", не привязываю их этим к местности, не ратую за двадцать какое-то арабское государство, отхватывая куски от нашей маленькой полоски суши!
Here's a link to more context, if necessary:
http://www.angelfire.com/sk/nesis/images/Mest1.html
All of that makes sense, but "за двадцать"? Is it money? Twenty isn't much, is it?
Here's some context:
Я не участвую в объявлении группы арабов-пришельцев отдельным народом, не называю их "палестинцами", не привязываю их этим к местности, не ратую за двадцать какое-то арабское государство, отхватывая куски от нашей маленькой полоски суши!
Here's a link to more context, if necessary:
http://www.angelfire.com/sk/nesis/images/Mest1.html
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | one more Arab state (in addition to the many that already exist) |
Michael Tovbin
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| 4 +4 | the twentieth-something |
Mikhail Kropotov
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| 4 +1 | upteenth |
Ocean122
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Change log
Mar 4, 2012 22:40: Michael Tovbin Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Michael Tovbin
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Works in: Russian to English, French to English, English to Russian, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
one more Arab state (in addition to the many that already exist)
спасибо, Angela, за идею
Peer comment(s):
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Mark Berelekhis
: Except I'd phrase it as "yet another."
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agreed - yet another is better
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| agree |
Angela Greenfield
: with you and Mark
12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I appreciated how this answer was less literal of a translation. Thanks!"
+4
5 mins
Mikhail Kropotov
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Germany
Native in Russian
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Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Russian
Related KudoZ points
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63
the twentieth-something
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Note added at 25 mins (2012-02-26 21:04:39 GMT)
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It's the same difference as these two:
She's twenty - she's 20.
She's twenty something - she's anywhere from 20 to 29, but more likely from 21 to 25.
Calling a country двадцать какое-то means it's not at the top of the list (any list), i.e. it's barely important.
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Note added at 25 mins (2012-02-26 21:04:39 GMT)
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It's the same difference as these two:
She's twenty - she's 20.
She's twenty something - she's anywhere from 20 to 29, but more likely from 21 to 25.
Calling a country двадцать какое-то means it's not at the top of the list (any list), i.e. it's barely important.
Note from asker:
| In that case, wouldn't it be "двадцатое"? |
| Aha! Got it, thanks everyone. |
| Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Angela Greenfield
44 mins
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| agree |
Oleksiy Markunin
1 hr
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| agree |
bububu
6 hrs
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| agree |
Rachel Douglas
: I sort of agree with this, too, though I think "umpteenth" is better, but it would probably be "twenty-somethingeth", no? / Well, maybe it should be spelled "twenty-somethingth", but that's hard to pronounce.
1 day 2 hrs
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Somethingeth, really? I'll let you the expert decide that one. I do agree that 'umpteenth' is better though. I thought the asker had trouble understanding this phrase so I provided an explanation. I never get the points this way but that's all right :)
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upteenth
А так не будет чуть более "по-английски?" ИМХО
http://www.glossary.com/encyclopedia.php?q=Upteenth
http://www.glossary.com/encyclopedia.php?q=Upteenth
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Rachel Douglas
: Yes, except it's "umpteenth" with an "m" in there.
2 hrs
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With "m?" No way. Only learned folks talks like that - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=upteenth&gbv=... PS - Thank you, Rachel
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Mikhail Kropotov
: It's umpteenth
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