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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

mexcalpique

English translation:

Chapultepec splitfin

Added to glossary by Heidi C
Oct 4, 2005 18:35
18 yrs ago
Spanish term

mexcalpique

Spanish to English Other Zoology animals native to Mexico
Thanks for the help...

Con la finalidad de restablecer el equilibrio y la salud ambiental del Bosque de Chapultepec se instrumentaron acciones para favorecer la presencia de especies zoológicas nativas, endémicas y en peligro de extinción, como el gorrión mexicano, el axolote, el acocil, el ***mexcalpique*** y el cacomixtle, además de aves migratorias entre las que se encuentran patos silvestres y garzas.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 Chapultepec splitfin or mexcalpique
5 +2 black sailfin goodeid (Girardinichthys viviparus)
4 Darkedged splitfin
3 +1 splitfin
3 Striped Goodea

Proposed translations

+3
3 hrs
Selected

Chapultepec splitfin or mexcalpique

viendo el texto completo, yo trataría de mantener todos los nombres españolizados del náhuatl: todas son especies endémicas. (axolotl, acocil crayfish, ...)

TAmbién, así el texto fluye, no te atoras en nombres científicos, y no corres el peligro de usar un nombre que se refiera a otra cosa.

Si metes el nombre científico, te complicas la existencia: para empezar hay diferentes nombres, a veces te remiten a algo diferente, y finalmente cambias el nivel de lengua del texto.

I found this option at http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/goodeida/girardin/gvi...
Girardinichthys viviparus
Chapultepec splitfin / mexcalpique
GOODEIDAE - splitfins

I like it because it stresses that it is from Chapultepec, and avoids using **Girardinichthys viviparus**. I would also leave mexcalpique, as it is an endemic species and this preserves also the name coming from nahuatl.



otros textos en inglés que lo mencionan:

Breeding the Sailfin Goodeid - Girardinichthys viviparus. by Rich Serva.
Girardinichthys viviparus is a goodeid that comes from the canals and lakes on the ...
www.gaas-fish.net/ttopics/ 2001/girardinichthys_viviparus.htm

I sampled a small lake in Chapultepec Park in Mexico City for Girardinichthys viviparus. This goodeid is endemic to the Valle de México, the endorheic (no natural outlet) basin where Mexico City is located. Girardinichthys viviparus is critically endangered, and is currently known from only three areas, the lakes of Chapultepec Park, Lago de Xochimilco, located on the southern edge of Mexico City, and a small spring tributary to the Río Tula in the adjacent state of Hidalgo, north of the Valle de México.
http://www.afae.it/pages/tematica/articoligoodeidi/goodeid_s...

Peer comment(s):
agree Michele Fauble : Yes, probably 'Girardinichthys viviparus' rather than 'Girardinichthys multiradiatus' (based on distribution).//Although I think 'Chapultepec splitfin' is an excellent name, 'Girardinichthys viviparus' is commonly called 'black sailfin goodeid' in English
15 mins
Thanks Michele :) I liked that option, which includes a photograph of the male and female. the page is written in English by a researcher, so it seems a nice option so it will not be confused with any old sailfin :)
agree Andrés Martínez
9 hrs
gracias Urico :)
agree Daniel Coria
13 hrs
Gracias Daniel, nos encontramos de nuevo :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Very helpful. Thanks to all."
12 mins

Darkedged splitfin

Species Summary
Girardinichthys multiradiatus Darkedged splitfin, You can sponsor this page, ...
www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=6238

North American Freshwater Fish
This is a taxonomically structured index to TNHC Fish WWW images, ... Girardinichthys multiradiatus (Meek) - darkedged splitfin / mexcalpique de Alto Lerma ...
www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html

Kinds of Fish
Girardinichthys multiradiatus (Meek, 1904), Darkedged splitfin. Girardinichthys viviparus (Bustamente, 1837). Goodea atripinnis Jordan, 1880 ...
www.discoverlife.org/nh/id/tmp/20q/html/Fish/Goodeidae.html

Hope it helps!
Peer comment(s):
neutral Andrés Martínez : Creo que Michele y Heidi tienen razón sobre la especie de pez y el nombre que debe recibir. Lamento el error. Un saludo.
5 mins
Muchas gracias, Urico... | No hay absolutamente nada de qué lamentarse; entre otras cosas, estamos aquí para aprender también... Saludos, Urico!
neutral Michele Fauble : Distribution: upper Rio Lerma and Zempoala lagoon in Morelos, Mexico.// Yes, but the distribution of most fish species is more restricted. The 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', not ' Girardinichthys multiradiatus.
3 hrs
Hi Michele; isn't the mexcalpique from Mexico? / Now I understand. Thanks for the info, Michele, and always a pleasure!
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+1
11 mins

splitfin

It seems that there are several diffent varieties of splitfin.

from http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html

GOODEIDAE - splitfins

Allodontichthys hubbsi Miller & Uyeno - whitepatched splitfin / mexcal pique de Tuxpan -
Allodontichthys polylepis Rauchenberger - finescale splitfin / mexcalpique de escama -
Allodontichthys tamazulae Tumer - peppered splitfin / mexcalpique de Tamazula - |P|
Allodontichthys zonistius (Hubbs) - bandfin splitfin / mexcalpique de Armeria -


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Note added at 13 mins (2005-10-04 18:48:55 GMT)
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Sorry, I meant to type "different" varieties.
Reference:

http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html

Peer comment(s):
disagree Michele Fauble : None of these species even belong to the same genus. The 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', 'black sailfin goodeid'. /'Mexcalpique (splitfin)' could refer to any number of species.
3 hrs
Thanks Michele, I didnt know which species, so chose a middle of the road answer. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. :)
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : I think this is the safest answer, because you don't know the species.
4 hrs
Thank you Muriel.
agree David Brown : mexcalpique (splitfin) would be how I would translate it
11 hrs
Thank you David.
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17 mins

Striped Goodea

Peer comment(s):
neutral Michele Fauble : Striped Goodea, Golden Sailfin Goodeid, but based on distribution, the 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', not ' Girardinichthys multiradiatus'.
4 hrs
Thank you!
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+2
4 hrs

black sailfin goodeid (Girardinichthys viviparus)

Based on the distribution, this is the fish that is found in Chapultepec.

Girardinichthys viviparus, mexcalpique, Amenazada. ... IX: An update to The Husbandry of The Black Sailfin Goodeid, Girardinichthys viviparus ". ... ...
fish.mongabay.net/G/Girardinichthys_viviparus.shtml

The Sailfin Goodeid - Girardinichthys viviparus by Rich . ... Maravatio,
Mexiko Girardinichthys viviparus, Chapultepec Park, Mexiko City ... ...
fish.mongabay.net/G/Girardinichthys_multiradiatus.shtml

Black Sailfin Goodeid / Amarillo. Family: Goodeidae JORDAN, in 1923. ...
Girardinichthys viviparus was the first species of the family of Goodeids to be ...
www.goodeiden.de/html/viviparus3.html

Girardinichthys viviparus, Mexclapique, endemic
www.mongabay.com/fish/data/Mexico.htm



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Note added at 4 hrs 41 mins (2005-10-04 23:17:11 GMT)
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Based on the distribution, this is the fish called 'mexcalpique' that is found in Chapultepec.


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Note added at 11 hrs 44 mins (2005-10-05 06:19:51 GMT)
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Girardinichthys viviparous, commonly known as
the Black Sailfin Goodeid, is rare and severely endangered. ...
beginnersworld.com/Pets/Aquatic/The-Black-Sailfin-Goodeid.html

Black Sailfin Goodeid Girardinichthys Viviparous by Chase Klinesteker, SWMAS; from SWAM, March / April 2004 Issue ...
www.swmas.org/swam/articles/girardinichthys_viviparous-klin...



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Note added at 11 hrs 50 mins (2005-10-05 06:26:08 GMT)
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Girardinichthys viviparous, commonly known as the Black Sailfin Goodeid, is rare and severely endangered. Mexico City is built on its limited habitat.
www.swmas.org/swam/articles/girardinichthys_viviparous-klin...

Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : and here ( pics.!) called the Chapultepec splitfin http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/goodeida/girardin/gvi...\Have just seen Heidi's already given this link
9 hrs
thanks
agree Daniel Coria
12 hrs
thanks
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