Question about е vs. ё
Thread poster: RichardPerry
Apr 13, 2010

Hello,

I'm working on a Russian mobile phone text input system and I have a question about е vs. ё. I understand that most Russians type 'е' most of the time, even for words that are spelled with 'ё' in dictionaries. My question is this: would Russian users prefer a system that automatically inserts 'ё' in the correct place for words like "её", (e.g. if the user enters "ее"), or would people prefer the phone to just display 'е' in all cases?

Thanks very much
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Hello,

I'm working on a Russian mobile phone text input system and I have a question about е vs. ё. I understand that most Russians type 'е' most of the time, even for words that are spelled with 'ё' in dictionaries. My question is this: would Russian users prefer a system that automatically inserts 'ё' in the correct place for words like "её", (e.g. if the user enters "ее"), or would people prefer the phone to just display 'е' in all cases?

Thanks very much for your help.

RP
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Nikolai Muraviev
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. Apr 13, 2010

IMHO, in mobile phone system, use of Ё is surplus. Usually, the text is almost readable with Е only.

 
Vitali Stanisheuski
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Both options would be welcome Apr 13, 2010

RichardPerry wrote:

Hello,

I'm working on a Russian mobile phone text input system and I have a question about е vs. ё. I understand that most Russians type 'е' most of the time, even for words that are spelled with 'ё' in dictionaries. My question is this: would Russian users prefer a system that automatically inserts 'ё' in the correct place for words like "её", (e.g. if the user enters "ее"), or would people prefer the phone to just display 'е' in all cases?

Thanks very much for your help.

RP


If possible, options with both е and ё should be stored in the memory. There are words, where ё is indispensable, e.g. всё as apposite to все, поем - поём, some proper names etc. I would feel like the phone lacks an important feature, if I would want to type ё and would fail to do it.


 
Igor Popov
Igor Popov
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Richard Apr 13, 2010

Hi,

Normally, I use е instead of ё, but if you can provide the option you are talking about, it would be highly appreciated, of course. Thank you very much.

Igor


 
Yury Rovnov (X)
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. Apr 13, 2010

I would say just keep both options. No need to either automatically replace e for ё or eliminate ё at all.

We have not been "overusing" ё lately, but sometimes, as it has been pointed out, one has to make a distinction between e and ё, so I would prefer having them both at hand.


 
Alistair Gainey
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My thoughts on this issue Apr 13, 2010

I have to say, I find texting in Russian a nightmare. In English, we have "txtspk" to accelerate the process -i.e., people use abbreviations, numbers to represent sounds, etc. Is there an equivalent in Russian?

 
Denis Kiselev
Denis Kiselev
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NOOOOO! Apr 14, 2010

RichardPerry wrote:

My question is this: would Russian users prefer a system that automatically inserts 'ё' in the correct place for words like "её", (e.g. if the user enters "ее"), or would people prefer the phone to just display 'е' in all cases?



Richard, talking about automatic substitution, the answer is "NOOOOOO!". Seriously and honestly, please, don't do that! Especially on a mobile phone. Let the user choose the letter, if it's possible. If not, keep е, skip ё.

If you're lucky to have a touchscreen, look at the iPhone — a perfect example of how a text input should work on a touchscreen. There IS ё there, but it's right where it should be on a mobile phone: hidden under е.


 
Nikolai Muraviev
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Sure, Apr 14, 2010

Alistair Gainey wrote:

I have to say, I find texting in Russian a nightmare. In English, we have "txtspk" to accelerate the process -i.e., people use abbreviations, numbers to represent sounds, etc. Is there an equivalent in Russian?


In Russian, there are dozens of abbreviations etc. But this is far from the discussed subject


 
esperantisto
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Both Apr 26, 2010

RichardPerry wrote:

would Russian users prefer a system that automatically inserts 'ё' in the correct place for words like "её", (e.g. if the user enters "ее"), or would people prefer the phone to just display 'е' in all cases?


I definitely prefer to have “ё”, but most users don’t care. The best way would be to have both variants.


 
danya
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ё-моё)) May 19, 2010

automatic replacement - NO
keeping it available for typing - YES

i used to have a nokia w/o ё in the Cyrilic keypad - boy, was I frustrated!


 


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