Sep 2, 2006 11:11
18 yrs ago
Portuguese term
unidade muito mais semântica do que morfológica
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Com a língua Paez, e possivelmente com as demais línguas Paezanos, o grupo fônico que constitui uma palavra teria uma unidade muito mais semântica do que morfológica
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Sep 2, 2006 11:11: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"
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12 days
Muriel Vasconcellos
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Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
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[would be] much more a semantic unit than a morphological one
There are lots of ways of saying this, hence my 4-level certainty. As for the verb, I would simply say "is" or "would be" ("would be" is more pedantic).
the phonic unit that constitutes a word is much more a semantic unit than a morphological one
MV speaking: Where I come from (functional linguistics), it is BOTH!
... predicate in Romance **does not correspond to one word (a morphological unit)** or ... behaves as **one functional-semantic unit** with one argument structure, ... PV V compositions constitute “single semantic words”, comparable to simple lexical items; yet they permit tmesis, or syntactic separation, sli-publications.stanford.edu/LFG/1/ackerman.html
MV speaking: Note that most linguistic analyses consider that these units are at different levels (see below). It works if you are writing a computer program, but I don't agree with that. That's the fundamental reason why machine translation will never work (and I've been there, tried that!). M.
Figure 2 illustrates the linking of units at the different levels (Mus = morphological unit, SynU = syntactic unit, Semu = semantic unit). ...
www.cst.dk/simple/lrec/nylrec.doc
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Note added at 12 days (2006-09-14 17:52:52 GMT)
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Note that I have changed my opinion about "phonic." My new translation would be:
the phonological group that constitutes a word is much more a semantic unit than a morphological one
the phonic unit that constitutes a word is much more a semantic unit than a morphological one
MV speaking: Where I come from (functional linguistics), it is BOTH!
... predicate in Romance **does not correspond to one word (a morphological unit)** or ... behaves as **one functional-semantic unit** with one argument structure, ... PV V compositions constitute “single semantic words”, comparable to simple lexical items; yet they permit tmesis, or syntactic separation, sli-publications.stanford.edu/LFG/1/ackerman.html
MV speaking: Note that most linguistic analyses consider that these units are at different levels (see below). It works if you are writing a computer program, but I don't agree with that. That's the fundamental reason why machine translation will never work (and I've been there, tried that!). M.
Figure 2 illustrates the linking of units at the different levels (Mus = morphological unit, SynU = syntactic unit, Semu = semantic unit). ...
www.cst.dk/simple/lrec/nylrec.doc
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Note added at 12 days (2006-09-14 17:52:52 GMT)
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Note that I have changed my opinion about "phonic." My new translation would be:
the phonological group that constitutes a word is much more a semantic unit than a morphological one
Note from asker:
| I think the author agrees that the "phonic unit" is both a morph and semantic unit, just that it is more one than the other. I interpret this passage such that the author defines how a root should be thought of as. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "What a syntactically complex note I just left! Thanks, Muriel. "
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Susy Ordaz
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a much more semantical harmony rather than morphological
a much more semantical harmony rather than morphological
Note from asker:
| Thanks for the try, but I've never heard of "semantical harmony", though perhaps it is something new... Regardless, it could be confused with phonological operations like vowel harmony etc |
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greater semantic as opposed to morphological unity/more united by semantics than by morphology
Com a língua Paez, e possivelmente com as demais línguas Paezanos, o grupo fônico que constitui uma palavra teria uma unidade muito mais semântica do que morfológica
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....the phonic group (?) that constitutes a word/from which a word is composed has/possibly has greater semantic as opposed to morphological unity/is more united by semantics than by morphology.
Some alternatives
....the phonic group (?) that constitutes a word/from which a word is composed has/possibly has greater semantic as opposed to morphological unity/is more united by semantics than by morphology.
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