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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

eterna esperanza blanca

English translation:

eternal white hopefuls

Added to glossary by Wil Hardman (X)
Nov 29, 2007 13:14
16 yrs ago
Spanish term

eterna esperanza blanca

Spanish to English Art/Literary Music
From a music biography:
Cansados de ser la eterna esperanza blanca influenciada por la música negra, Atom Rumba afirman aspirar al mercado europeo desde una discográfica euskaldun, Oihuka, tres años después de su último paso por el estudio.

The issue I have is that not so much the meaning but how it could be phrased. In my opinion the 'eternal white hope/hopefuls influenced by black music' sounds slightly strange and even a little racist.

I would appreciate any thoughts on this.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 being the great white hope forever
3 the symbol of eternal white hope

Discussion

Wil Hardman (X) (asker) Nov 29, 2007:
Thanks, it is interesting that you also think it is racist in Spanish. So now I won't worry about transmitting this connotation into English.
Salloz Nov 29, 2007:
Esto de la esperanza blanca, etc, ya es racista de por sí. Y viene del brutal "deporte" del boxeo. Es parte de una cultura en al que el color del cuero humano es de suprema importancia. Por más que le busques, no puedes evitarlo.
Victoria Porter-Burns Nov 29, 2007:
Hi Wil, I see what you mean about the possible racist connotations the text might have, but if it's that, excuse the pun, black and white in the text, keep it I would say.

Proposed translations

+1
6 mins
Selected

being the great white hope forever

Es una frase hecha.
The Great White Hope is a Pulitzer Prize-winning and Tony Award-winning play written by Howard Sackler and first produced by Arena Stage in Washington, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_White_Hope

...tired of forever being the musical Great White Hope... Algo así. Tú lo acomodas.
Peer comment(s):
agree George Rabel : absolutely, usually associated with boxing.
37 mins
Gracias, George.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to both the answerers! In the end I went with eternal white hopefuls as I think it fits well within a musical context."
1 min

the symbol of eternal white hope

I read it as referring to 'white' artists/musicians forever striving to be and do as the 'black' artists/musicians do but never quite getting there

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Note added at 2 mins (2007-11-29 13:17:26 GMT)
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For example, many 'white' musicians try and try to be as successful as 'black' rappers etc. but never quite get it
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