Aug 6, 2017 14:10
6 yrs ago
Serbian term

to keep within it

Serbian to English Social Sciences History Šta je nove stranke i radnike držalo posvećene ideji potpune revolucije društva?
Na šta se odnosi "it"? I koje od značenja reči "keep" ovde najviše odgovara?

What kept new parties committed to the complete revolution of soviety, at least in theory, and the masses of ordinary workers committed to them, was certainly not the inability of capitalism to bring them some improvement. It was that, so far as most workers who hoped for improvement could judge, all signioficant amelioration came primarily through their action and organization as a class. Indeed, in some respects the decision to choose the road of collective improvemnt foreclosed other options. In the regions of italy where poor landless farm labourers chose to organize in unions and cooperatives, they did not choose the alternative of mass emigration. the stronder the sense of a working-class community and solidarity, the stronger the social pressures to keep within it, though they did not exclude - especially for groups like the miners - the ambition to keep one' childer the scooling that would keep them out of the pit. What lay behind the socialist conviction of working-class militants and the approval of their masseswas, more than anything, the segregated world imposed on the new proletariat. If they had hoped - and their organized members were indeed proud and hopeful - it was because they had hoped in the movement. If the 'American dream' was individualist, the European worker's was ovewhelmingly collective.

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da se bude deo radnicke klase/zajednice

Ovo bi bio moj predlog

Kako se osećaj zajedništva i solidarnosti radničke klase povećavao tako se povećavao/tako je jačao socijalni pritisak da se bude deo te klase…
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Serbian term (edited): social pressures to keep within it (it = your own community)

притисак окружења да се остане унутар "своје заједнице" (/ држати се својих)

[In the regions of Italy where poor landless farm labourers chose to organize in unions and cooperatives, they did not choose the alternative of mass emigration.] The stronger the sense of a working-class community and solidarity, the stronger the social pressures to keep within it, [though they did not exclude - especially for groups like the miners - the ambition to keep one's children the schooling that would keep them out of the pit.]

Што је снажнији осећај заједништва и солидарности унутар радничке класе, утолико је јачи групни притисак (/ притисак окружења) да се остане унутар "своје заједнице" (с другим радницима / међу својима / држати се својих)

Basically, a variation on the theme of "peer pressure" ...
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