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May 22 20:19
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Spanish term
United States
Reliable and detail oriented
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English
RCRO' ESS'
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
These letters and the apostrophes appear under a signature on a letter from a court in Michoacán, Mexico. I'm curious as to what they stand for.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 -1 | RCRO' ESS' |
slothm
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| 3 -1 | Mr. Justice RCRO qua /as 'Probation Judge' (supervising the suspended sentence) |
Adrian MM.
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References
| RCRO |
Charles Davis
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| Just for fun |
AllegroTrans
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Proposed translations
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49 mins
RCRO' ESS'
Leave as is.
However explain the meaning. ESS, Mexican government organization.
https://www.cnbv.gob.mx/Prensa/Presentaciones Seminario Corr...
RCRO. 3. 2. 1. En donde: RCRO = requerimiento de capital por Riesgo Operacional...
https://www.gob.mx/inaes/que-hacemos
La economía social y solidaria (ESS) es un conjunto de iniciativas socioeconómicas y culturales que se basa en un cambio de paradigma basado en el trabajo ...
However explain the meaning. ESS, Mexican government organization.
https://www.cnbv.gob.mx/Prensa/Presentaciones Seminario Corr...
RCRO. 3. 2. 1. En donde: RCRO = requerimiento de capital por Riesgo Operacional...
https://www.gob.mx/inaes/que-hacemos
La economía social y solidaria (ESS) es un conjunto de iniciativas socioeconómicas y culturales que se basa en un cambio de paradigma basado en el trabajo ...
Note from asker:
| Neither answer makes sense in the context. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
philgoddard
: This doesn't make sense in a letter from a court.
47 mins
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| neutral |
Juan Jacob
: con phil... esta aportación no parece tener sentido.
1 hr
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: I agree with Phil
15 hrs
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19 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
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622
Spanish term (edited):
RCRO 'ESS' (Mex.)
Mr. Justice RCRO qua /as 'Probation Judge' (supervising the suspended sentence)
The apostrophe has been entered in the wrong place, adding to the confusion of scant context '..on a letter from a court in Michoacán, Mexico'.
Pls. - esp. ProZ regulars - note closely and carefully or 'remember from criminal litigation lectures or practic/se' that a suspended sentence in England & Wales is called a deferred sentence in Scotland, as opposed to a deferred judg(e)ment South of the Border.
Thanks any road to Charles D. for cracking the (user-unfriendly) initials.
Pls. - esp. ProZ regulars - note closely and carefully or 'remember from criminal litigation lectures or practic/se' that a suspended sentence in England & Wales is called a deferred sentence in Scotland, as opposed to a deferred judg(e)ment South of the Border.
Thanks any road to Charles D. for cracking the (user-unfriendly) initials.
Example sentence:
En México, la ESS (Ejecución de Sentencia Suspendida) es un mecanismo legal que permite a una persona que ha sido condenada a una pena privativa de libertad, cumplir su condena sin ingresar a prisión, bajo ciertas condiciones y con la vigilancia del ju
En México, el Juez de Ejecución de Sentencia Suspendida es un juez especializado que se encarga de supervisar el cumplimiento de las condiciones impuestas a un sentenciado cuando se ha suspendido la ejecución de su pena.
Note from asker:
| ESS as "Ejecución de Sentencia Suspendida" makes sense for this letter. |
| I agree that the apostrophe marks are strange...but they aren't typos. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
slothm
: Is the paper about a patent? Where does a judge fit in?
2 hrs
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: Please explain to us all how you have divined that "ESS" leads to this conclusion>> and what earthly use to a translator in USA is your guff about Scotland England and Wales?
3 hrs
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| disagree |
Juan Jacob
: No se entiende nada, como a menudo con sus respuestas.
4 days
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Reference comments
17 mins
Reference:
RCRO
No idea whether this is relevant, nor whether the apostrophe is significant.
From a list of judges in Michoacán:
"75. Juez de Primera Instancia en Ejecución de Sanciones Penales REGIÓN MORELLA de iniciales RCRO"
http://congresomich.gob.mx/file/Sesión-036-I-13-12-2024.pdf (p. 18 and again on p. 28. no. 56).
From a list of judges in Michoacán:
"75. Juez de Primera Instancia en Ejecución de Sanciones Penales REGIÓN MORELLA de iniciales RCRO"
http://congresomich.gob.mx/file/Sesión-036-I-13-12-2024.pdf (p. 18 and again on p. 28. no. 56).
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
philgoddard
: Yes, RCRO is Roberto Carlos Rueda Olmos. ESS could be someone else's initials.
23 mins
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Quite probably. Thanks, Phil
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| agree |
Juan Jacob
: Siempre son iniciales, a veces del responsable, a veces del asistente/secretario/a que redacta. Se deja tal cual. Muchas veces visto por acá.
2 hrs
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Gracias, Juan. Estoy de acuerdo. Se deja tal cual.
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| agree |
AllegroTrans
18 hrs
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17 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
1716
Reference:
Just for fun
I asked AI about this.
See how it lies:
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The "ESS court" in Mexico, often referred to as the "Environmental and Social Standards (ESS) court," is a concept used in the context of the World Bank's Environmental and Social Framework (ESF). It does not refer to a specific, formal court within the Mexican legal system. The ESS court concept relates to how the World Bank assesses and monitors the environmental and social impacts of projects they finance, particularly through the ESS10 (Stakeholder Engagement and Information Disclosure) standard.
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And on a second search, it goes totally off-tangent:
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"Ess Court" refers to a line of Tommy Hilfiger trainers, specifically the "Ess Court" model. They are available in various colors like beige and white, and can be purchased from retailers like La Redoute UK. The shoes are often described as leather trainers.
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And on a third swipe it became a tad more sensible:
AI Overview
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In the context of Mexican courts, there isn't a widely recognized acronym "ESS" with a specific legal meaning. The acronyms "ESS" have various meanings, such as Environmental and Social Standards, Environmental Stress Screening, and Environmental Systems and Societies, as mentioned in other search results.
It's possible that "ESS" is used in a specific area of Mexican law or within a particular court system, but without more context, it's difficult to pinpoint its exact meaning. To understand its use in Mexican courts, more information about the specific area of law or court would be needed.
See how it lies:
AI Overview
Learn more
The "ESS court" in Mexico, often referred to as the "Environmental and Social Standards (ESS) court," is a concept used in the context of the World Bank's Environmental and Social Framework (ESF). It does not refer to a specific, formal court within the Mexican legal system. The ESS court concept relates to how the World Bank assesses and monitors the environmental and social impacts of projects they finance, particularly through the ESS10 (Stakeholder Engagement and Information Disclosure) standard.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2025-05-23 13:59:10 GMT)
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And on a second search, it goes totally off-tangent:
AI Overview
Learn more
"Ess Court" refers to a line of Tommy Hilfiger trainers, specifically the "Ess Court" model. They are available in various colors like beige and white, and can be purchased from retailers like La Redoute UK. The shoes are often described as leather trainers.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2025-05-23 14:07:18 GMT)
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And on a third swipe it became a tad more sensible:
AI Overview
Learn more
In the context of Mexican courts, there isn't a widely recognized acronym "ESS" with a specific legal meaning. The acronyms "ESS" have various meanings, such as Environmental and Social Standards, Environmental Stress Screening, and Environmental Systems and Societies, as mentioned in other search results.
It's possible that "ESS" is used in a specific area of Mexican law or within a particular court system, but without more context, it's difficult to pinpoint its exact meaning. To understand its use in Mexican courts, more information about the specific area of law or court would be needed.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
philgoddard
: It's so sad that people believe this crap.
1 day 59 mins
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It's even more sad that world leaders are declaring it to be "the future". And yet worse, the crazy notion that AI "is achieving consciousness", or even has already done so, and that we have to give it human rights, etc. etc.
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Discussion
@Juan Jacob, it sounds like you are frustrated. Hopefully you can maintain more professionalism during future discussions.
Could it be Roberto Carlos Rueda Olmos?
Pls. - esp. ProZ regulars - note closely and carefully or 'remember from criminal litigation lectures or practic/se' that a suspended sentence in England & Wales is called a deferred sentence in Scotland, as opposed to a deferred judg(e)ment South of the Border.
Sorry but that was the answer Google gave.
I hate AI.
@AllegroTrans - Funny you asked AI, but that's why I'm asking here on ProZ. You know, real people.
Law/Patents.
We are waiting for Alison to provide more context - "a letter from a court" doesn't convey very much. Alison? civil? criminal? patents? sentencing? come on, you have the document, we don't
Alison, ... it up to you.
Probably the initial of of a person that approves that the patent conforms to ESS norms.
Could this really be RCRO/ESS/ ?
i.e. a scanning error, perhaps
La "ESS" que mencionas, en el contexto de Michoacán y patentes, podría referirse a la Sociedad de Estudios y Servicios de Michoacán (ESS), que fue una asociación civil con sede en Morelia. La ESS se enfocaba en el desarrollo de la sociedad, la cultura y la economía de Michoacán.
En un contexto de patentes, tienen sentido lo acrónimos.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449...
Here's a list of the judges, though none has the initials ESS. It's possible they're no longer in post if the document is an old one.
http://www.poderjudicialmichoacan.gob.mx/web/institucion/dir...