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What cliches do you dislike the most?
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Michael Newton
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cliches Dec 29, 2022

Not forgetting

"We take these allegations very seriously".


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Isabelle Rodriguez
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I partly agree with you! Dec 29, 2022

Tom in London wrote:

Isabelle Rodriguez wrote:

..... you are not humbled, you are PROUD, which is the exact opposite Right?


That's definitely an intolerable cliche.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins and comes before a fall.

So whenever I read something along the lines of "we are proud of (blah blah blah)" I'm always puzzled as to what they're boasting about. Don't they know they're heading straight for disaster?

[Edited at 2022-12-27 23:12 GMT]



Hi Tom,
I partly agree with you! I won't follow you on the seven deadly sin track, but I should have written HONOURED, not PROUD. I was too quick in my choice of words.


 
Michael Newton
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cliches Dec 29, 2022

"the takeaway" should be limited to curries and fish and chips.

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Dan Lucas
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Future imperfect Dec 29, 2022

Michael Newton wrote:
"Going forward".

I used to be dead against "going forward", but I have gradually come to feel that it has a place when used to convey the future with an emphasis on temporal contiguity (for want of a better phrase). By that I mean that there are times when you are focusing on a period of time that begins today or tomorrow. For example:

"To reflect higher input costs we made adjustments to our pricing in the second quarter, and going forward we may make further revisions."

This seems to me to be a useful alternative to the following example, which gives no sense of when such actions might be taken.

"To reflect higher input costs we made adjustments to our pricing in the second quarter, and in future we may make further revisions."

"in future" = this year? Next year? A decade hence?

Regards,
Dan


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Baran Keki
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Going forward Dec 29, 2022

I've mastered my English mostly by watching football and listening to Simon Jordan (LOL)
I've heard the phrase 'going forward' for the first time from Roy Hodgson, who seems to be incapable of running a kebab shop, let alone managing a football team, so I'd very much doubt he's privy to the business lingo, and if 'going forward' is good enough for Hodgson, then it's certainly good enough for me.
Some of the irritating footy cliches:
Rolls Royce (of a player)
Mountain to c
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I've mastered my English mostly by watching football and listening to Simon Jordan (LOL)
I've heard the phrase 'going forward' for the first time from Roy Hodgson, who seems to be incapable of running a kebab shop, let alone managing a football team, so I'd very much doubt he's privy to the business lingo, and if 'going forward' is good enough for Hodgson, then it's certainly good enough for me.
Some of the irritating footy cliches:
Rolls Royce (of a player)
Mountain to climb
On the back of or off the back of (I've never been quite sure about that one, I'd be obliged if a Brit colleague would kindly enlighten me)
An absolute legend! (there seems to be no end to those legends)
Dark arts of defending





[Edited at 2022-12-29 11:33 GMT]
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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How could I forget… Dec 31, 2022

“Drop the mic”? This American expression, which once was used by rappers to indicate the end of a battle, has been borrowed by people everywhere and mics are dropping in Portugal…

expressisverbis
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Tom in London
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And another... Dec 31, 2022

"I for one"- used by annoying people trying to suggest, without a shred of evidence, that millions of people agree with them.

As in

"I for one don't believe that climate change is real"

[Edited at 2022-12-31 13:53 GMT]


expressisverbis
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Kevin Fulton
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You guys Dec 31, 2022

Another Americanism I assume. English lacks a clear second person plural, so in the southern states, y'all is commonly used (and is insidiously making its way north). "Hi guys", as mentioned above, is a variant, which as far as I can tell is a common way for YouTube videos to begin, no matter the country of origin. Conceivably I might address a group of men as "you guys", but never a mixed group.

Tom in London
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Yasutomo Kanazawa
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@Stepan Jan 2, 2023

Stepan Konev wrote:

Metin Demirel wrote:
With that mindset (which I speculate that they have), any word in the English language can be found impersonal, lacking interest, passive–aggressive, or sarcastic.
With that mindset 'How are you?' can be seen offensive by some too: when someone says 'How are you?' they don't actually care about you. And you don't even need to reply with 'Thank you, I'm fine' because that question does not require any response at all.

By the way
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:
What I dislike the most is that English clichés tend to infiltrate other languages
The How-are-you attitude has also infiltrated into the Russian language too. Several years ago this question supposed a brief convo. These days, when you meet somebody saying 'Как дела' (equivalent of 'How are you'), next thing you see in a moment is their fading back...

[Edited at 2022-12-28 12:02 GMT]


I know that the phrase ”Как дела“ is an equivalent to "How are you?" but from what I've learnt, the meaning of the phrase is closer to "How are things (going)", which could be interpreted not only as asking the person how s/he's doing mentally or physically at that particular moment but could also mean a lot of other things, such as how are that person's family members doing, or how's your business doing, etc.


 
Yasutomo Kanazawa
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@ Tom Jan 2, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

People who say "Hey" instead of "Hello".



[Edited at 2022-12-27 13:12 GMT]


This happens sometimes when I receive job mails from non-English PMs and I hate it, too.
I feel like I'm being treated like a horse even if they address my first name after the word "hey".


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Tom in London
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That one is particularly annoying because… Jan 2, 2023

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:

“Drop the mic”? This American expression, which once was used by rappers to indicate the end of a battle, has been borrowed by people everywhere and mics are dropping in Portugal…


… in any normal world, "mic" is pronounced "mick". As in Mickey


 
Tom in London
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This one is really bad Jan 2, 2023

People who say "I'll be back momentarily" when they mean "I'll be back in a moment".

When I hear that, I always feel like saying "oh don't be in a hurry. When you arrive, I'd like you to stay for longer than just a moment".


 
Interestingly… Jan 2, 2023

… there have hardly been any clichés mentioned in this thread, mainly just pet peeves…

It’s like everyone took their eye off the ball.


Philip Lees
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jyuan_us
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Two more Jan 2, 2023

That's a good question. The bigger picture.

Tom in London
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Dan Lucas
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Regional dialect Jan 2, 2023

Tom in London wrote:
People who say "I'll be back momentarily" when they mean "I'll be back in a moment".

If they were British, you'd right to be annoyed, but this is legitimate usage in American English.

Dan


 
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