Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Si se puede –que se puede–

English translation:

If they can—and indeed they can—

Added to glossary by Charles Davis
Sep 3, 2013 11:55
10 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Si se puede –que se puede–

Spanish to English Social Sciences Journalism Article on 'Las Maras' in El Salvador
Hi everyone,

I'm translating an article on 'Las Maras' in El Salvador. I understand what it means but would like more ideas on how to make it sound natural in English. Thanks for your help!

Resulta extraño que la policía y los sistemas de seguridad pierdan el tiempo tratando de saber lo que sucede. Reprimen y punto. Las causas, los motivos y los orígenes de la violencia y el crimen no se consideran, ni tan solo parece interesar. No se ve utilidad alguna saber lo que está sucediendo, se incrementan los efectivos y se mejoran las armas si el presupuesto lo permite. La solución acostumbra a plantearse con mano dura. Los resultados saltan a la vista. Las maras se organizan mejor, mejoran también el armamento y actúan con mayor crueldad y fuerza. ***Si se puede –que se puede–*** entran en los cuerpos de seguridad para aprender mejor el oficio de las armas, escapar de las leyes civiles y adiestrarse en el espionaje. Cada vez es peor. El incremento de la violencia legal sirve de poco, tiene efec- tos secundarios y muchas contraindicaciones. En seis meses mediante el conocimiento científico de las maras y de sus razones de ser, en Guayaquil se redujo la violencia un 60%. Ningún cuerpo de seguridad tradicional es capaz de conseguir estos resultados.
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Sep 8, 2013 10:51: Charles Davis Created KOG entry

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If they can—and indeed they can—

An alternative. I find "If they can" more natural than "If it is possible" in the context of the whole sentence, and I think adding "indeed" deals satisfactorily with the second part.

Google produces one example of this precise combination of words:

"It stands to reason that if notice‐and‐comment is too burdensome, agencies will avoid it if they can—and, indeed, they can and do."
http://repository.law.ttu.edu/bitstream/handle/10601/1326/8 ... (p. 10, top).
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agree Evans (X) : yes, this sounds natural to me.
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Thank you, Gilla!
agree James A. Walsh
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Thanks, James :)
agree María Eugenia Wachtendorff
4 hrs
Gracias, MEW :)
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If it is possible -and it is-

Various ways to express this, but I think this is the way I'd go.

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Day 6 – Alan Hobbett, Community Power: The Imminent Revolution
www.findhorn.org/.../day-6-alan-hobbett-community-power-the...
If it's possible, and it is because other countries have done it, and if it presents all these benefits that I've talked about, then why do we still have large centralised ...

Gone with the wild - Mid-Day
www.mid-day.com/lifestyle/2012/jun/170612-Gone-with-the-wil...
Jun 17, 2012 - If it's possible (and it is) the views are even more breathtaking. Interestingly, the cape was named the Cape of Storms, before it got its current ...
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agree Victoria Amengual
5 mins
Thanks, Victoria. :)
agree María Eugenia Wachtendorff
5 hrs
Thank you! :-)
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Those that can - and where's a will, there's a way -

One option.
Peer comment(s):

agree EirTranslations
17 mins
Thanks very much, Aquamarine.
agree María Eugenia Wachtendorff
3 hrs
Cheers and thanks, María Eugenia.
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if they can and of course they can

if they can and of course they can, infiltrate the security forces to better learn the trade of weaponary, (while) evading the laws of the land and be trained (in the arts) of espionage...
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agree María Eugenia Wachtendorff
3 hrs
Thank you Maria
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