Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

scullery

French translation:

arrière-cuisine / souillarde

Added to glossary by Tony M
Nov 27, 2013 15:16
10 yrs ago
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English term

scullery

English to French Other Real Estate
Hello,

I urgently need to know how to say the term "scullery" in French - what would be the equivalent term for this? It's also known as a "butler's pantry" in American English...

Arrière cuisine is appearing frequently as a solution, but as a native French speaker, I know that we don't often use this.
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arrière-cuisine

Well, we don't use 'scullery' very often in EN either, come to that! But where I live, the term 'arrière-cuisine' is quite common in everyday language — maybe because the rural houses around here have them!

But as ever, it all depends on the context! What I know traditionally as a scullery in the UK is very much the equivalent of 'arrière-cuisine' as I see it being used around here.

However, it has to be said that in UK EN at least, a 'scullery' is nothing like a 'butler's pantry' (which is often 'office', BTW) — so it would help to know more about your actual context, so as to be sure.

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-11-27 16:27:31 GMT)
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Where I come from in the UK, people of my parents' generation (i.e. first half 20th century) called it a scullery, but our (marginally!) posher friends called it the 'back kitchen' — at a time when family life still revolved around the kitchen table, just as it still does today here in rural France.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-11-27 18:09:57 GMT)
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In modern UK houses, of course, the functions of the old-fashioned scullery have now largely been replaced by the 'utility room' — though that probably will no longer be used for washing pots and pans, but more likely laundry facilities, thereby bringing it closer to the FR 'buanderie'

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Hi Emma! Yes, of course I remember you :-)
Note from asker:
Thank you very much Tony for your help - I dont know if you remember me but this is Emma May from the last time I asked you about "appartement de haut standing"!
Peer comment(s):

agree FX Fraipont (X)
2 mins
Merci, F-X ! :-)
agree kashew : Yes, big difference from kitchen cupboard/pantry mainly for foodstuffs.
47 mins
Thanks, J! Yes indeed ;-)
agree Yvonne Gallagher : yep, if it has a sink (or two)...
1 hr
Thanks, G2! Yes, in my book, that would be a determining criterion.
agree GILLES MEUNIER
2 hrs
Merci,Gilles ! :-)
agree Catharine Cellier-Smart
4 hrs
Merci, Catharine !
agree GuillaumeT (X)
6 hrs
Merci, Guillaume !
agree Emma May Price
10 days
Thanks, Emma!
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6 mins

arrière-cuisine / souillarde

"Salle - Wikipédia
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Arrière-cuisine : petite pièce en petit enfoncement attenante à la cuisine, servant de réserve (parfois aussi nommée « souillarde ») ; ce peut-être aussi une ..."
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes, though I would say that 'souillarde' is a rarer term in FR; but I have come across it a lot in real estate adverts, for example — but only in relation to old houses.
3 mins
thanks Tony!
agree kashew
45 mins
thanks Kashew!
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+1
3 mins

garde-manger

I think is equivalent. Scullery not too common in English either and very few houses have them

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-11-27 16:45:58 GMT)
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well, what my aunt calls a "scullery" should really be called a "pantry" since there is no sink. (It basically is a small room as described here as "cold pantry")


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantry


Peer comment(s):

agree Marion Lambert-Nuding
0 min
merci Marionlam:-)
neutral Tony M : That would really translate 'pantry' or 'larder', a 'scullery' is somewhere quite different — you wouldn't keep food there, it's for dirty tasks like washing dishes and pots and pans... or worse!
1 min
sorry, not the scullery I know! My aunt has one and it is like a larder or pantry, separate little room with no sink//Hmm, just looking at definitions and they agree with yours! I wasn't thinking of the Big House Scullery maid, of course !
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5 hrs

pièce de service

Maybe this is a more modern term?

The ground floor comprises an entrance hall, a vestibule, two fitted kitchens, cloakrooms, toilets and a utility room.
patrice-besse.co.uk

Le rez-de-chaussée est composé d'un hall d'entrée, d'un vestibule, de deux cuisines équipées, vestiaires, toilettes et pièce de service.
patrice-besse.com
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : I rather fear that your translated website is a little too literal, and started off in EN.
3 mins
it were only one of me maybes...
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