Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
kohärente Größen
English translation:
coherent units
Added to glossary by
Steffen Walter
Jun 29, 2001 07:36
23 yrs ago
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German term
United States
kohärente Größe
German to English
Science
Physics
Da im SI-System die Masse als Basisgröße definiert ist, muss die Kraft aufgrund des NEWTONschen Gesetzes eine abgeleitete Größe sein, der man als kohärente Größe den neuen Einheitennamen „NEWTON“ mit dem Kurzzeichen „N“ gab.
The suggested translation I am editing is:
Because mass is defined as a base quantity in the SI system, force based on Newton's law must be a derived quantity which, as a coherent quantity, was given the new unit name of newton and the symbol "N."
Sounds fine to me, except that I can't find a definition of coherent quantity in this context, and am not sure if it is a literal translation or if it is the correct term.
Can anyone help me clarify this question?
TIA, Beth
The suggested translation I am editing is:
Because mass is defined as a base quantity in the SI system, force based on Newton's law must be a derived quantity which, as a coherent quantity, was given the new unit name of newton and the symbol "N."
Sounds fine to me, except that I can't find a definition of coherent quantity in this context, and am not sure if it is a literal translation or if it is the correct term.
Can anyone help me clarify this question?
TIA, Beth
Proposed translations
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| 0 +2 | coherent units |
Yves Georges
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| 0 +1 | coherent magnitude |
Alexander Schleber (X)
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| 0 | Yves is right |
Sven Petersson
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| 0 | FYI |
Ken Cox
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| 0 -1 | Coherent quantity |
lone (X)
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| 0 -1 | coherent quantity |
Henri (X)
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| 0 -1 | coherent size |
Dierk Seeburg
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Change log
Apr 10, 2007 16:58: Steffen Walter changed "Term asked" from "coh�rente Gr��e" to "kohärente Größe" , "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Science" , "Field (specific)" from "(none)" to "Physics"
Proposed translations
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40 mins
Yves Georges
France
France
Works in field
France
Engineer, 25 years in instrumentation
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, German to French
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coherent units
In this matter we should use the word "unit"
Such a system like the metric system or SI System (comes from the French "Système International").
Quantity is acceptable in this sense but remains ambiguous, since the very subject is the internal coherence of the system it is better to refer to units.
good luck
Such a system like the metric system or SI System (comes from the French "Système International").
Quantity is acceptable in this sense but remains ambiguous, since the very subject is the internal coherence of the system it is better to refer to units.
good luck
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again to everyone for their help. I am going to use unit, as I see the point of that; however, it was coherent I was really having trouble with. I just didn't understand what a coherent unit is supposed to represent; however I trust that since the original used cohärent, it is a pretty safe bat that that's a Germanization of the English term coherent.
Thanks again very much to all of you! "
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14 mins
Coherent quantity
Please see site below ti decide!
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17 mins
Henri (X)
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coherent quantity
is OK.
Coherence between force (expressed in Newton) and mass (expressed in kg).
The relation between both is :
force = mass times acceleration.
Coherence between force (expressed in Newton) and mass (expressed in kg).
The relation between both is :
force = mass times acceleration.
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22 mins
Dierk Seeburg
Native in German
Courteous professional, charter member
Native in: German (Variants: South Tyrol (Italy), Saxon (Upper), Belgian, Swiss, Swabian, Bavarian, Alsatian, Austrian, Namibian, Platt / Nieder (Low German), Germany) 
Works in: German to English, English to German
coherent size
Coherent size is in fact how it can be denoted. A search for coherent quantity does not turn up any results, at least not in a physics or engineering context.
Cheerio,
Dierk
Cheerio,
Dierk
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Sven Petersson
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What are your references to back that up?
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coherent magnitude
"Größe" does not equal "quantity". The typical definition in scientific terminology is "magnitude", and not size either, which is more of a dimension. Magnitude includes any (comparative) measurement and is therefore less limited than either size or quantity.
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Sven Petersson
Sweden
Sweden
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Works in field
Sweden
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Yves is right
Soorrey, I pressed the wrong button on a non-Yves answer, which resulted in an "agree" where it should have been a disagree. Does anybody know how to change it?
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1 day 6 hrs
FYI
From Gray & Isaacs, A new Dict of physics:
Conerent units: a system of units, such as SI units, in which the quotient or product of any two units gives the unit of the resultant physical quantity. For example, in SI units the unit of length is the metre and the unit of time is the second, so the unit of velocity is the metre per second. The base units of a coherent system ... are an arbitrarily defined set of physical quantities; all other units in the system are derived from the base units by defining relationships and are called derived units.
Conerent units: a system of units, such as SI units, in which the quotient or product of any two units gives the unit of the resultant physical quantity. For example, in SI units the unit of length is the metre and the unit of time is the second, so the unit of velocity is the metre per second. The base units of a coherent system ... are an arbitrarily defined set of physical quantities; all other units in the system are derived from the base units by defining relationships and are called derived units.
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