Aug 7, 2004 15:06
20 yrs ago
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German term

Balkonien

German to English Social Sciences Tourism & Travel
Public balconis where people come together to barbecue and party. Is there any equivalent in english?

Discussion

Stefanie Sendelbach Aug 7, 2004:
Hi Helga, where did you get the �public balconies� from? Do they appear in your text?
Kevin Pfeiffer (X) Aug 7, 2004:
(Sorry, ignore my prev. comment, was not paying attention!)
Kevin Pfeiffer (X) Aug 7, 2004:
It would help if you could be more specific as to what this is or where it's found. I, for example, am picturing a housing project or student housing, etc. where one would like to have a place (which is shared) to hold barbecues.

Proposed translations

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in their own backyard

Urlaub in Balkonien: Balkonien is an imaginary country which happens to be right on your balcony. It's a euphemisn for spending your vacation at home instead of travelling. Incidentally, the country's favorite wine is "Chateau de la pompe".

I'm not aware of a similar expression in English, mainly because the concept of travelling abroad for "real" vacations doesn't exist in the US.
Peer comment(s):

agree Thomas Bollmann
4 mins
neutral Kevin Pfeiffer (X) : But how do you get "balcony" (assuming this really is what is meant) out of backyard? // Okay, now I see that you are specifically addressing "Urlaub in Balkonien" (sorry about the confusion).
5 mins
The balcony doesn't really matter, it's staying at home what counts.
agree Trudy Peters
18 mins
agree Stefanie Sendelbach : This is also my interpretation of "Balkonien". What I don´t understand is helga´s reference to public balconies.
28 mins
agree RNolder (X) : yes I think this would be our U.S. English equivalent since most of us only have backyards rather than balconies.
47 mins
agree Kim Metzger : Another term where the standard dicos are of no help.
1 hr
agree NGK
1 hr
agree KathyAnna O : agree with Klaus
2 hrs
agree Will Matter : that's funny, this American has been on quite a few 'real' vacations (Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, France, Spain, Japan, Mexico, Canada, every state in the U.S., among others).
2 hrs
agree Derek Gill Franßen
3 hrs
agree Christine Lam
8 hrs
agree Olaf
18 hrs
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6 mins

balconies

galleries, mezzanines, balustrades, upper porches ....
some of the possibilities
Peer comment(s):

neutral Kevin Pfeiffer (X) : Except for balustrade: " a railing at the side of a staircase or balcony to prevent people from falling."
8 mins
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8 mins

balcony land or land of balcony

Found these references on Google, but have never really heard them used.
Peer comment(s):

agree Christine Slattery : this is an old play on words, people who could not afford to travel abroad would claim to take their vacation in Balkonien
5 mins
neutral Kevin Pfeiffer (X) : This I only know from the German. Is it really used in one or more of the "Englishes"?
8 mins
neutral Klaus Herrmann : I'm not sure this expression is understood outside of Germany?
8 mins
neutral RNolder (X) : U.S. native and I've never heard it.
50 mins
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9 mins

mezzanine

mezzanine
Definition:1. [n] intermediate floor just above the ground floor
2. [n] first or lowest balcony


http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/mezzanine
Peer comment(s):

agree RNolder (X) : I think this is what you need for 'public balcony'
1 hr
neutral Nancy Arrowsmith : barbecueing on a mezzanine???
1 hr
Good point. Klaus has the answer.
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1 hr

porches

in the sense of 'veranda' is a place where you might have social gatherings. But the porch of a house is privately owned, not a 'public' balcony.
Peer comment(s):

agree NGK
25 mins
agree Will Matter : also acceptable in this context.
1 hr
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4 hrs

stay at home and relax on one's own balcony

according to Duden-Oxford
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4 hrs

Balconia

Why not just use "Balconia"? It is, as already mentioned, an imaginary country. So I think Balonia would be perfect.
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