Parliamentary committee today 18.12.2024 - watch online if interested
Thread poster: Tom in London
Tom in London
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Dec 18, 2024

Subject: Interpreting and translation services in the courts

Witness(es): Sarah Sackman MP, Minister of State, Ministry of Justice; Daniel Flury, Operations Director, HM Courts and Tribunals Service; Nick Goodwin, Chief Executive, HM Courts and Tribunals Service


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Gjorgji Apostolovski
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. Dec 18, 2024

in the american tv show Jinx in the second season, there was an AI equipment in the court.
I'm guessing that the Brits are trying to do the same thing. While one is speaking, the voice recognition is in action and speech to text is shown on screen. And I'm guessing that this text can be easily translated with AI immediately.

There are plenty countries who are already implementin
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in the american tv show Jinx in the second season, there was an AI equipment in the court.
I'm guessing that the Brits are trying to do the same thing. While one is speaking, the voice recognition is in action and speech to text is shown on screen. And I'm guessing that this text can be easily translated with AI immediately.

There are plenty countries who are already implementing AI services, for example Greece
https://www.athenarc.gr/en/news/one-first-seven-ai-factories-eu-be-established-greece-pharos-places-greece-artificial
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But.... Dec 18, 2024

Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:

in the american tv show Jinx in the second season, there was an AI equipment in the court.
I'm guessing that the Brits are trying to do the same thing. While one is speaking, the voice recognition is in action and speech to text is shown on screen. And I'm guessing that this text can be easily translated with AI immediately.

There are plenty countries who are already implementing AI services, for example Greece
https://www.athenarc.gr/en/news/one-first-seven-ai-factories-eu-be-established-greece-pharos-places-greece-artificial


1. Interesting, but if you (hopefully never) find yourself on trial for murder in a court in the (e.g.) the UK would you have complete confidence that the AI interpreting is complete and accurate - and if there is no human interpreter present to verify?

2. Don't be fooled by the low-key polite understated tone of this meeting. This is war! The people answering the questions are trying desperately to defend their protected position, and the committee members are giving them a hard time. Hanging over the whole proceeding is the prior decision, of the committee, to suspend the bidding process for the new contract and this has the three visitors shìtting themselves although in true British fashion, they do their best to hide it.

[Edited at 2024-12-18 13:51 GMT]


Gjorgji Apostolovski
 
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Well... Dec 18, 2024

Tom in London wrote:

Gjorgji Apostolovski wrote:

in the american tv show Jinx in the second season, there was an AI equipment in the court.
I'm guessing that the Brits are trying to do the same thing. While one is speaking, the voice recognition is in action and speech to text is shown on screen. And I'm guessing that this text can be easily translated with AI immediately.

There are plenty countries who are already implementing AI services, for example Greece
https://www.athenarc.gr/en/news/one-first-seven-ai-factories-eu-be-established-greece-pharos-places-greece-artificial


1. Interesting, but if you (hopefully never) find yourself on trial for murder in a court in the (e.g.) the UK would you have complete confidence that the AI interpreting is complete and accurate - and if there is no human interpreter present to verify?

2. Don't be fooled by the low-key polite understated tone of this meeting. This is war! The people answering the questions are trying desperately to defend their protected position, and the committee members are giving them a hard time. Hanging over the whole proceeding is the prior decision, of the committee, to suspend the bidding process for the new contract and this has the three visitors shìtting themselves although in true British fashion, they do their best to hide it.

[Edited at 2024-12-18 13:51 GMT]


Well, I can't do anything about implementing AI in court, that's for sure. That's UK committee's decision. All I was saying was that AI equipment was already used in court, but not for translating, more like Stephen Hawking's, but in reverse. And also translating is possible, and about the accuracy, well...

I watched couple of minutes of your stream, and they were all nervous.

[Edited at 2024-12-18 14:37 GMT]


Tom in London
 
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Thanks for the tip. Dec 18, 2024

Missed it, will watch it later.

Let me make an educated guess: at no point in time there wasn't even a hint about the big elephant in the room, i.e. the wisdom of giving a total monopoly on language services for ALL courts to just one company?

With the predictable - and intended - result of the monopolist abusing its monopol and only bored housewives, students & Co having any interested in working for peanuts. If they considered THAT perfectly normal for years,
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Missed it, will watch it later.

Let me make an educated guess: at no point in time there wasn't even a hint about the big elephant in the room, i.e. the wisdom of giving a total monopoly on language services for ALL courts to just one company?

With the predictable - and intended - result of the monopolist abusing its monopol and only bored housewives, students & Co having any interested in working for peanuts. If they considered THAT perfectly normal for years, watch out for the next "improvement" ...

Would love to be proved wrong, but it’s not likely.
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