Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

agenciar

English translation:

to tackle

Added to glossary by Graham Allen-Rawlings
Sep 24, 2010 22:39
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Spanish term

agenciar

Spanish to English Other History
We're in Greco-Roman Egypt. Dictionary and Kudos are telling me 'wangle'... just doesn't work in this context:
Por otra parte, que el término ciudad no sea el adecuado para indagar en las formas que adoptan los núcleos de población egipcios no obsta para que se hubiera desarrollado una experiencia en la organización de los espacios con principios originales sobre la forma de *agenciar* las construcciones.
any suggestions will be more than welcome.
Thanks in advance.

Discussion

Rosa Paredes Sep 25, 2010:
@graham Interesting ... To my ears 'agenciar' sounds like "to try to get the resources even if using unorthodox means". That's my understanding.
Buen fin de semana! :)
Graham Allen-Rawlings (asker) Sep 25, 2010:
It's modern European Spanish written as part of an initial presentation to a workshop on "the Graeco-Roman space of the city in Egypt" (that's actually the author's contribution to the translation). I get the impression it may have been originally written in Catalan or by a native Catalan speaker.
Rosa Paredes Sep 25, 2010:
@asker Fifteen if you count the different options within some answers. I think it would be helpful to know where/when the document was written. What variant of Spanish/what year. Saludos.
Graham Allen-Rawlings (asker) Sep 25, 2010:
wow! Twelve suggestions, not one of them with any agrees... certainly food for thought. Thank you all for your ideas, and for confirming the ambiguity of the expression for me.
Hmmmmm...now to choose one......
Jenni Lukac (X) Sep 25, 2010:
Thinking about this term (a bit odd in the original Spanish in my opinion) "to carry out" might be another option.

Proposed translations

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to tackle

Peer comment(s):

agree Christine Walsh
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Thank you.
agree Richard Boulter : I perceive some idiomatic influence in the source. To 'lay out' (2 words) is also possible and, less-slangy, 'realize/realise. Also: 'put together/set up' construction of...'
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Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks to all for your help"
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manage to procure or manage to get or manage to build

It is softer than wangling, somewhere between that and managing o get
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regulating

Ya
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to manipulate or falsify

(a situation, action, etc.)
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to assembly



I am understanding this from and architectural/urbanist point of view, so said that, from this point of view I'm sure of my answer, but kept myself lower because I may not be understanding the concept in an historical point of view.

http://diccionario.reverso.net/informatica-ingles-espanol/as...

http://www.archdaily.com/26721/cargotecture-hybrid-architect...

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Note added at 6 horas (2010-09-25 05:13:01 GMT)
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assemble the constructions,

Lo cierto es que no hay muchas opciones vía Internet para estas frases en referencia a la organización de la construcción, arquitectura, etc... pero sería mi opción sin duda.
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with original principles governing structural design

according to the context
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to realize /realise

I think the writer meant "to realize", as in: Kazakhstan to realize largest project on construction of Western Europe?Western China transcontinental corridor. ASTANA. February 6. ...
kazinform.kz/eng/article/2160202 - En caché; Pyramid Giza Egypt Construction Theory Ramp Carlos Colette Dowell
The construction of the model is realized by means of the following procedure: ... JPG)*** Colette Dowell Carlos Theory Pyramid in Egypt Construction ramp ...
circulartimes.org/Great%20Pyramid%20Egypt%20Construction%20... - En caché - Similares
Peer comment(s):

agree Christine Walsh : Or possibly 'undertake'. Saludos
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Cheers and thanks, Christine. "undertake" is a wonderful suggestion.
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layout

building layout or planning
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make use of/ administer

This is a general introduction to the use and distribution of "urban" space in ancient Egypt. I think it has nothing to do with wangling/falsifying/manipulating, the meaning of the verb here is neutral.
Example sentence:

” from human concerns, and from the way people react to and make use of buildings and the urban built environment. ...

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Spanish term (edited): (la forma de) agenciar (las construcciones)

best construction practices

Another way of putting it, perhaps.
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to engineer

about the way to engineer constructions

I read it as an elaborate way of saying "do"...
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take control of / borrow

Not sure if it fits in here, but this is how I normally think of the word ("vamos a agenciar esa mesa de allí"... "¿te importa si agencio a tu hija un momento para que me explique lo que es Hello Kitty?"

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Note added at 9 mins (2010-09-24 22:49:07 GMT)
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*make use of* perhaps wd do you better

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Note added at 23 hrs (2010-09-25 22:17:45 GMT)
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I've tried working on the whole sentence and this is what I've come up with so far.

"...the fact that the term "city" really isn't the right one to use in delving into the forms which the Egyptian centres of population take on doesn't mean to say that experience had not been acquired in the organization of spaces with original principles on how to make use of the buildings"

A couple of agrees have trickled in since you last posted G, and I note that Electra obviously agrees with me since she also suggests "make use of" ;-)
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