Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
motifs économiques
English translation:
economic grounds
French term
France
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motifs économiques
Very straightforward on the face of it, but central to my text. Not in any of my dictionaries. Also would be a useful addition to the glossary in these hard times.
| 4 +5 | economic grounds |
Victoria Britten
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| 3 +1 | redundancy |
Tim Webb
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| 3 | economic reasons |
Gaurav Sharma
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Nov 29, 2013 09:16: Rob Grayson changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
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Proposed translations
France
Tracking the right turn of phrase
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, English, French
economic grounds
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Tony M
: cf. grounds for dismissal / for divorce, etc.
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Thanks, Tony!
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writeaway
: far more usual than business grounds (although I must say that a bit of context would be very helpful.)
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Thanks! // Wouldn't it just...
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Lorraine Dubuc
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Thanks!
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Jean-Claude Gouin
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Thanks
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: It has to be "economic"; "business" does not make sense as grounds for dismissing an employee. The original means it has to do with money which is conveyed by "economic" in English. "Business" is not necessarily to do with money and thus lacks precision.
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Thanks, Nikki
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India
5 yrs plus Exp. in Bus, Fin. & Contracts
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: French to English, Portuguese to English, English to French
economic reasons
redundancy
May be an over-localisation. It depends on how much precision is required in the context.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-11-29 08:58:54 GMT)
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Writeaway: Exactly, and from Conor's next question this looks like a ruling or submissions. Not sure, though,that that makes a big difference - "motif économique" is still very general in France and must always be qualified (http://travail-emploi.gouv.fr/informations-pratiques,89/les-... )
Redundancy always implies economic reasons of some sort.
| @ writeaway: the context would not help, and there are also confidentiality issues. |
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writeaway
: yes of course if one wants idiomatic English. however we have not seen any French context at all. so there is a chance that seeing the actual context could change the whole thing.
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Tony M
: Right idea, but the fact that the source text uses 'motifs' suggests these may well be the grounds for that redundancy — which is more often 'licenciement économique'
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