Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
las ventas caen de manera puntual por la propia estacionalidad
English translation:
sales temporarily fall/drop off due to seasonal factors
Added to glossary by
Jenni Lukac (X)
Mar 30, 2011 19:01
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Spanish term
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de manera puntual
Spanish to English
Marketing
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He visto varias posibilidades, fuera de contexto, para "de manera puntual": "timely", "a one-off bassis" "occasionally", etc. Pero no se que será lo mejor para este contexto:
"En aquellos momentos en los que las ventas caen de manera puntual por la propia estacionalidad..."
Provisionalmente interpreto:
"At those times when sales drop as a one-off basis due to seasonlality..."
"En aquellos momentos en los que las ventas caen de manera puntual por la propia estacionalidad..."
Provisionalmente interpreto:
"At those times when sales drop as a one-off basis due to seasonlality..."
Proposed translations
(English)
Change log
Apr 1, 2011 12:23: Jenni Lukac (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Selected
sales temporarily fall/drop off due to seasonal factors
"Drop off" is fine if you like it but keep the "puntual" meaning by adding temporarily.
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Claudia Reynaud
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Cheers and thanks, Claudia.
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neilmac
: Best in show;)
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Cheers and thanks, Neil.
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Alison Imms
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Greetings and thanks, Alison.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "De nuevo muchas gracias Jenni."
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7 mins
Daltry Gárate
Bolivia
Bolivia
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Bolivia
Unreserved attention to detail
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Bolivian, Latin American)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
specifically because of...
Acá puntual debe entenderse como específico, o como dice en el diccionario Collins, aislado.
"At those times when sales drop specifically because of/due to seasonality..."
Espero te sea de utilidad. Saludos.
puntual
ADJ
1 [persona, llegada] punctual
2 (= detallado) [informe] detailed
[cálculo] exact, accurate
3 (= aislado)
se trata de casos muy puntuales > they are very isolated cases
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Note added at 10 minutos (2011-03-30 19:11:38 GMT)
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Según el Diccionario Oxford:
puntual
adjetivo
...
C (Lingüística) aspecto momentary, punctual
"At those times when sales drop specifically because of/due to seasonality..."
Espero te sea de utilidad. Saludos.
puntual
ADJ
1 [persona, llegada] punctual
2 (= detallado) [informe] detailed
[cálculo] exact, accurate
3 (= aislado)
se trata de casos muy puntuales > they are very isolated cases
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Note added at 10 minutos (2011-03-30 19:11:38 GMT)
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Según el Diccionario Oxford:
puntual
adjetivo
...
C (Lingüística) aspecto momentary, punctual
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FVS (X)
: I hate puntual but I think this is closest.
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Thanks FVS, i always appreciate your support
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Maria Mastruzzo
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Thank you Maria
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as expected / predictably
I'm going off-term, as it were, to fit the context. Assuming this is a product affected by seasonal factors, it is expected to drop off-season and that is predictable. So your possible sentences:
"At those times when sales drop as expected due to seasonal factors..."
"At those times when sales predictably drop due to seasonal factors..."
You could also start with "At those specific times when..." to get closer to that sense of puntual.
"At those times when sales drop as expected due to seasonal factors..."
"At those times when sales predictably drop due to seasonal factors..."
You could also start with "At those specific times when..." to get closer to that sense of puntual.
Peer comment(s):
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Daltry Gárate
: Yes, "At those SPECIFIC times when..." reflects the real sense of "puntual" in this context, but that's not the case for "expected" or "predictable", again, in this context.
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I agree with you Daltry, that's why I said I was going off-term right at the start. I was phrasing for the context and sentence flow. Yours is directly on the terms and I like Jenni's, too. Eugenio has some good options here to work from.
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regularly
another possibility
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Edward Tully
: Spot on! This word is mistranslated very often...
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Thanks.
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Patricia Parten
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Works in field
United States
TRANSLATOR 20+ yrs exp.
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Mexican, US, Costa Rican, Latin American, Colombian, Ecuadorian , Cuban, Peruvian, Venezuelan, Guatemalan) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Spanish, English to Spanish, and 5 more.
PROMPTLY
I know that I know..... esto es lo que se utiliza aqui, en los Estados Unidos (both regular/general and legal terminology).
Best of luck to you.
Patricia :o)
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...sales drop promptly according to the seasons....
Best of luck to you.
Patricia :o)
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Note added at 48 mins (2011-03-30 19:49:53 GMT)
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...sales drop promptly according to the seasons....
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neilmac
: El clásico falso amigo: aqui no significa "punctually/promptly" sino "de vez en cuando".
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Don't agree: "... sales drop promptly according to the seasons...
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Marian Vieyra
: with neilmac
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Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Specializes in field
Spain
Especialista de marketing
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
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192
a (temporary) seasonal slump in sales
"At those times when there is a temporary seasonal slump in sales"
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... but not for back to back sales I hasten to add) and after a while vendors ... to have a **** for the school holidays aswell as the
www.second-mortgage.tk/opinion-on-the-toss-of-a-property/ - Cached
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Palm unveils robust Q4 performance - Computer Business Review
26 Jun 2002... and an increase in operating losses over the next financial period due to a traditional ***seasonal slump in sales over the summer months****. ...
www.cbronline.com/news/palm_unveils_robust_q4_performance - Cached
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Camping | What's the cheap - Mumsnet Discussion
I'm guessing that late autumn/winter is likely to be cheaper as retailers try to counteract **seasonal slump in sales** and shift old stock. ...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/camping/808997.../AllOnOnePage - Cached
opinion on the toss of a property | Mortgage Free
... but not for back to back sales I hasten to add) and after a while vendors ... to have a **** for the school holidays aswell as the
www.second-mortgage.tk/opinion-on-the-toss-of-a-property/ - Cached
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Palm unveils robust Q4 performance - Computer Business Review
26 Jun 2002... and an increase in operating losses over the next financial period due to a traditional ***seasonal slump in sales over the summer months****. ...
www.cbronline.com/news/palm_unveils_robust_q4_performance - Cached
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Camping | What's the cheap - Mumsnet Discussion
I'm guessing that late autumn/winter is likely to be cheaper as retailers try to counteract **seasonal slump in sales** and shift old stock. ...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/camping/808997.../AllOnOnePage - Cached
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Yvonne Gallagher
: I would omit "temporary" as redundant with "seasonal"
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Thanks, Gallagy. That's just what I thought, so put it in brackets. Agree it's implied by the word 'seasonal'.
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Marian Vieyra
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Edward Tully
Native in English
Works in field
Because your words matter
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US)
Works in: Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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215
omit (please see note)
This word "puntual" is very commonly mistranslated because it is also commonly misused.
Here "puntual" has the meaning of "at a specific/regular time" and not "once in a while/from time to time".
Really the word here is redundant and the translation should be "at those times when sales fall due to seasonal factors/trends"
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-03-30 23:34:34 GMT)
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neilmac has got it completely wrong here for example - this does not mean "de vez en cuando"!
Here "puntual" has the meaning of "at a specific/regular time" and not "once in a while/from time to time".
Really the word here is redundant and the translation should be "at those times when sales fall due to seasonal factors/trends"
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-03-30 23:34:34 GMT)
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neilmac has got it completely wrong here for example - this does not mean "de vez en cuando"!
Peer comment(s):
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Yvonne Gallagher
: agree with your reading
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many thanks! ;-)
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Marian Vieyra
: Yes, you're right. My agree with neilmac was re false friend.
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many thanks Marian! ;-)
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Ricardo Galarza
Uruguay
Uruguay
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Uruguay
also a journalist and a writer
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, Portuguese to Spanish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
actually / concretely / in a concrete manner / in reality
"De manera puntual" means "actually," in a "concrete manner," etc. It has nothing to do with "de vez en cuando", which means "every now and then," "every so often," "from time to time," "sometimes," etc.
I would translate your sentence as follows (which I think is the only way to do it being faithful the source text):
"At those times in which sales actually drop due to seasonal factors..."
I would translate your sentence as follows (which I think is the only way to do it being faithful the source text):
"At those times in which sales actually drop due to seasonal factors..."
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