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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

espesor mínimo

English translation:

minimum thickness

Added to glossary by MPGS
Mar 8, 2016 18:53
8 yrs ago
Spanish term

espesor mínimo

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
Hi, I was wondering if I could ask for some advice on the following description:

El sistema HC Panel es un sistema de fachada consistente en un panel con acabado exterior de cerámica o piedra de espesor mínimo, junto con un núcleo de nido de abeja

My doubt is about the translation of 'minimo espesor' and whether it refers to both "ceramic" and "stone", or just to stone. The options I've come up with are:

... a minimum-density stone or ceramic outer finish, along with a honeycomb core

... a ceramic or minimum-density stone outer finish, along with a honeycomb core

Or any other alternatives?

Many thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 minimum thickness
2 lightweight
Change log

Jun 26, 2016 07:33: MPGS Created KOG entry

Discussion

Thomas Walker Mar 9, 2016:
Minimum thickness The purpose of this type of exterior finish is to provide a look that looks like tile or stone (if you don't look too closely), but in which the tile or stone is very thin, which keeps down both the cost & the weight. Whichever is used, tile or stone, makes no contribution to the structural strength of the panel. I agree with Helena that most likely the total thickness of the panel is set, & the relative thicknesses of the finish & the honeycomb panel are adjusted to make the total thickness come out right.
Thomas Walker Mar 9, 2016:
Units? Kevin, where later in the text they mention "tolerancia espesor", do they give numeric values with units? That would resolve the thickness vs. density issue right away.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Taña could well be right and it might refer to the whole panel.
meirs Mar 8, 2016:
piedra Ceramics have a more or less fixed thickness (from the factory) whereas stone can be cut to practically any reasonable thickness.
My 5 cents
Kevin Connor (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Possible solution OK, I'll check with client. Just thinking, though... If the "minimum thickness" referred to the panel, would the Spanish not be "panel de mínimo espesor con acabado exterior de cerámica o piedra"?
Taña Dalglish Mar 8, 2016:
After Googling, does it refer to Butech?
Sistema HC Panel - Butech
www.butech.net/.../FOLLETO HC PANEL.pdf
Translate this page
Sistema HC Panel. Descripción del sistema. El sistema HC Panel es un sistema de fachada consistente en un panel con acabado exterior de cerámica o piedra de espesor mínimo, junto con un núcleo de nido de abeja.
If so, I provided a link in English to the same manual. technical book - Butech
www.butech.net/download/FACHADAS 2016 EN.pdf
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Surely the panels have a set thickness and its only the thickness of the finish that change?
Toni Castano Mar 8, 2016:
Very, very ambiguous I would ask the client to be on the safer side. In my view, "espesor mínimo" can refer to two things here, either "panel" or "acabado exterior". I think, "acabado", as Helena suggested, is also possible. I see no reason to discard this second option.
matt robinson Mar 8, 2016:
No , Toni said it referred to "panel", not ceramica or piedra. You need to consult the client, as neither the word order nor the meaning are clear.

And toleráncia espesor would still not suggest density over thickness.
Kevin Connor (asker) Mar 8, 2016:
Thanks! So I'll go for the first option "minimum-density stone or ceramic outer finish". @Matt, am also doubting the thickness/density choice. I know "densidad" exists, but "espesor" is translated as both. For this specific sentence there's no more information, but later in the text they mention "tolerancia espesor"
Toni Castano Mar 8, 2016:
My view I believe "espesor mínimo" refers to "panel", the word order is just confusing. Confirmation from client is advisable, though. If I am right, "minimum thickness" would be accurate.
Helena Chavarria Mar 8, 2016:
Yes 'espesor mínimo' refers to the acabado.
matt robinson Mar 8, 2016:
I think more information is required. I would not necessarily translate "espesor" as density. It could be thickness, and it may not apply to the "ceramica" or "piedra", but to the "acabado".

Proposed translations

+2
43 mins
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minimum thickness

either stone or ceramic
:-)

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Note added at 45 mins (2016-03-08 19:38:48 GMT)
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it's a film or very thin sheet

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-03-08 20:12:18 GMT)
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What is a honeycomb backing?
Honeycomb backing by StonePly is basically real stone firmly attached to a "honeycomb matrix" using aviation epoxies. This makes the stone panel super solid and incredibly strong. Structurally sound, StonePly honeycomb provides easy installation that can be attached directly to sheathed studwalls.
http://stoneply.com/applications


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Note added at 1 hr (2016-03-08 20:20:19 GMT)
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densidad, 'density = mass per unit volume' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density

espesor, 'thickness = distance between the top and bottom' http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thickness

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Note added at 109 days (2016-06-26 07:32:51 GMT) Post-grading
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thank you all
:-)
Peer comment(s):
agree Hinara
1 day 10 hrs
thank you, Hinara. Best. :-)
agree Pablo Cruz
107 days
muchas gracias, Pablo. Saludos :-)
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37 mins

lightweight

http://ronblank.com/courses/sti04a/sti04a.pdf
Why H/C Reinforced Lightweight Stone?
Here is an overview of the reasons why lightweight aluminum
honeycomb-reinforced natural granite, marble, and limestone
cladding is a great alternative with building owners, architects
and contractors.

What Is A Stone Panel?
This lightweight stone product is composed of a
3/16” to 1/4” thick veneer of granite, marble,
travertine, slate or limestone; bonded with high
strength epoxy to a substrate of aircraft quality
aluminum honeycomb.

technical book - Butech
www.butech.net/download/FACHADAS 2016 EN.pdf
Mechanical fixing system using visible or concealed clips to prevent the tiles coming loose. ..... HC-Panel system. ..... Capa 1: Panel Securock, con un espesor de 12 mm, un grama e de 10 kg m2, de color ... Butech's modular system is an innovative lightweight façade construction system, which by the quickness of its ...
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